@Steve, sawa I shall rest my thread. However, as soon as is possible upon completion of my learning curve, I shall be setting up a site and start doing some basic development from there. I know what Im saying but it may not sound correct. Lets give it time and see how things work out. In the case of linux ubuntu and developing a dialer, all am saying is this as an example. If safaricom did not take up the suggestion ( as expected ), there was nothing stopping from developing it for ubuntu and localised it for free ( during free time ). Can you imagine all those who love php and mysql and build around it, did not have access to such or had to pay thousands?