From the years, I have come to totally agree IE really really sucks.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
@Phares I am afraid I have to come to the defense of @Solomon and start by saying Internet Explorer sucks. It doesn't matter if IE has 65% of the market or not it sill sucks. to get FF or Chrome or safari onto your windows pc you must intentionally go in and download it but IE i found on your PC by default so that would be the 1st reason why its still the most popular. now if you have been following browser usage for years you will notice IE is loosing ground.
Now the reason anyone on this list may not know that IE sucks is coz they don't bother to write code from scratch using CSS. When a developer pulls Joomla/Drupal etc off the web and installs it what they don't know is that the developers have gone through the headache just to make it work correctly in IE. So even though you use it you have no idea they have had to come up with work-arounds to handle IE Bugs.
right now i am working on an online game canvass (from scratch) and the same code works on all browsers except IE. so when I am done i will have to do make a ie specific CSS version to take care of the bugs found in IE so I can cater for the 65% of internet users... it makes me sooo mad.
Rule of the thumb when developing web applications. If you want to hack it for real, rule says develop on Firefox (which will work in chrome and others) then write another version of the CSS to handle IE bugs and wrap it like so...
<!--[if IE]> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="ie-only.css" /> <![endif]-->
for IE 5 specific <!--[if IE 5]> <link href="IE-5-SPECIFIC.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> <![endif]-->
for IE 6 specific <!--[if IE 6]> <link href="IE-6-SPECIFIC.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> <![endif]-->
for IE 7 specific <!--[if IE 7]> <link href="IE-7-SPECIFIC.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"> <![endif]-->
IE 8 added this meta tag to make things easier for us. As you well know a site may look okay in ie7 and breaks in ie8 so to solve that you need to add this to your meta tags
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />
This makes ie 8 behave like ie 7
All in all, If you wanna know why developers are so frustrated with IE? Its not coz its a microsoft product its because of bugs like this:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Phares Kariuki" <pkariuki@gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:32:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] The best testing platforms which give the worst results
Well my point was and still remains, Internet Explorer sucks
Unfortunately, you have not provided any concrete data to back up your argument. Currently IE has around 65% of the market share, so as a web developer, it would be terribly imprudent to disregard it. Secondly, IE has several benefits (one of them being seamless integration with Windows, Sharepoint is not as fluid on Firefox). I'm preaching for IE, however there is a concrete reason why they currently have lead market share. -- With Regards,
Phares Kariuki
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