To me it seems telcos here are very inexperienced in data services and in the process have burnt their fingers to offer reliable data services. Why? Simply, they modelled the data services similar to voice services. While on voice they could compress a number of voice channels per BTS capacity to say eg 8kbps, data is a different monster all together. TCP/IP alone has massive overheads and trying to squeeze it to work on 8-16kbps channels simply cannot work. The costs/profits to a mobile telco are based on the number of BTS channels utilized and congestion models that have predictive call behaviour. The congested internet backbone has until now helped them keep control on BTS overheads and channel allocations. For example, we can say that for an 8k channel allocation the business model for voice call is 1 Ksh and timed per second. During a voice call, the caller will naturally hang up asap and this allows another caller to use the same time slot. On data, the same 8k channel is timed per Mbyte. This Mbyte may take upto 10 minutes to clear. Therefore during this period, the channel cannot be used by anyone else and so queues build up proportionally to congestion. Once the fiber goes live, these BTS models will not be able to handle the demands. In many ways, not having the fiber has been a big advantage to telcos as the backbone self congested and slowed down. In fact if safaricom 3G don't follow certain rules, they may see a network crash within the first few hours of the fiber being lit. They seem to have learnt a few things and thus the reason for blocking smtp and torrents. Foolish and amatuer ways of network management ( I blame the sales management, not engineers! ). Orange has also adjusted their rate bundles. Yu has some sort of primitive channel controllers that drop packets if the speed rate/ports is exceeded. I believe tariff rates will have to go upwards if telocs are to improve on data delivery. Somehow safaricom seems to be the culprit. It comes up with cheaper rates and then not able to offer reliable services. Others follow suit and none can offer any reliable services. Teclos have tried to compete with traditional ISPs and their infrastructure will never allow it. Inexperience shines like a light on a dark street. my thots....