boils down to a BIG JOKE!!!
Steve
----- "Watchman" <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Umm.. I've not been out for ten years. I've had the chance to test them ten years ago and as recently as this year.
>
> I live in KE. And this is where i had my first Dialup about 17 years ago. Or was it 16. In any case, it's been progressively.. SLOW.
>
> I agree. It's good to be able to have a 256KB connection. It's Great in fact not just good. But let's take a look at: Dormans Sarit. Some of you may know it as my Sunday hangout from a few years back. And about two years ago, they landed a fibre connection. God help me, i was downloading at 4 MB/s that's not 4MegaBits, but 4,000KB/s. This is the reality of how fast our internet can be.
>
> I remember when the Fiber was landing in KE we had extensive talks here on Skunks regarding the bandwidth it was going to bring in and the estimated piping right now as well is close to 14 TB's of DATA. this makes me exclaim .. WTF! where is all that bandwidth going? and the answer we all get is....
>
> either the infrastructure's not in place. Or What bandwidth?
>
> So in response to what anyone says regarding an up in bandwidth ( keep in mind, the 128 to 256 upgrade though seemingly an overnight thing probably took about a month in implementing and a year in timing so as to make their clients feel.. ooohh... they care )
>
> I'm not for international markets. I'm not for living in another country. I'm for here. I am for a better tomorrow. I intend on there being changes here because i believe we can do a truck load better. Not just a little, we can be better than the US. The UK, probably better than the Asian countries from where my forefathers came .
>
> IF WE BELIEVE WE CAN!.
>
> Not with the attitude of .. YAY! so they upped the bandwidth a little, i'm going to go home and download a 3GB file in a day! YAAAY!! . ( I'm not pointing fingers, if i was i wouldnt be afraid of pointing names )
>
> Have some integrity as Techies for what it's worth, i've been a tech in KE for close to 14 years now and i'll say this. We've got a long ass way to go to catch up with the rest of the world if we keep up our current attitude of yeah, someday we'll get that 15Meg link at home. Maybe my kids will get it.
>
> My two and a half cents.
>
> W.
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:11 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Has anyone tried using Skype on the 16KB/s (128kbs)?>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:49 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> @Watchie,
>
> None of the ISPs have given us anything close to 64K let alone 256K. I have streamed an entire soccer match on Safaricom bambanet with very little breakage.
>
> While you were out for 10 years, we were building the networks, and the quality and reach still leaves alot to be desired of. Welcome back to Kenya, and learn to live within the constraints, trust me internet is the least of them ;-)
>
> Kiania D.
>
> PS. I have an Accesskenya link at home, It cant compare to Safcom. (Sorry Raymond it's the truth)
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> @David.
>
> I'm sure this is a leap forward from everyone. And i'm sure it'll satisfy a lot more people but, for those of us who've had the chance to taste speeds in other countries about ten years ago, and up to as recently as this year, it makes a difference knowing how much the local ISP's make off the consumers. I can confidently say they've made at least if not more, 2 - 3 Million from my spending between home and Work use over the past twelve years.
>
> And i'll also say this about the infrastructure that keeps getting mentioned. SC#$W the Infrastructure.
>
> This has nothing to do with the infrastructure.
>
> It has everything to do with wanting to make more money. I can get in to details about how much i despise what's happening but i'd rather make a difference. So.
>
> Can anyone get me the numbers of TEAMS or SEACOM or KDN with a direct reference point?
>
> W.
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:36 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
>There are two things that are never satisfied, the grave and skunks
>
> #Nihayotu
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Allan <allayy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Common!!!. With all the resources they have they can surely do better than
> > that
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> haiya...hehehe...you mean skunkworks is that powerful...
> >>
> >> ...thanks Bob...
> >>
> >> On 7/26/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Haya, raves and rants to follow ;-)
> >> >
> >> > ./bernard
> >> > sent from my android device.
> >> >
> >> > On Jul 26, 2011 5:09 PM, "David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd" <
> >> > kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Update from Bob Collymore's Twit
> >> >>
> >> >> bobcollymore:
> >> >> Don't you folks say I don't listen....we've tested and doubled speed on
> >> > the
> >> >> unlimited bundle to 256 kbps....Enjoy!
> >> >>
> >> >> Kiania D
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:15 PM, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> 15 Mbps for 2,700? that's super
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Watchman <skunkingrahim@gmail.com
> >> >>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Meanwhile in other parts of the world...
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.earthlink.net/access/cable.faces
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >
> >> > http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Learn/HighSpeedInternet/highspeedinternet.html
> >> >>>> *
> >> >>>> W.*
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Safaricom with millions of customers prioritizes voice on their
> >> > network,
> >> >>>>> they need a data only channel such as LTE before they offer unlimted
> >> > such
> >> >>>>> that voice is not affected
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On 25 July 2011 20:07, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> True the one with the best ecosystem will ultimately come out tops
> >> >>>>>> (or
> >> >>>>>> remain tops) problem is am not seeing the others building a
> >> >>>>>> seamless
> >> >>>>>> ecosystem. If they are am just not seeing it. Only safaricom seem
> >> >>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>> have it covered what with their online presence and ease of buying
> >> >>>>>> bundles etc. lets see how it goes.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On 7/25/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> > Gone with the wind? I don't think so. See, customers want value.
> >> > It's
> >> >>>>>> no
> >> >>>>>> > longer the mantra that "cheap is best " If that was so, why
> >> >>>>>> > aren't
> >> >>>>>> guys
> >> >>>>>> > scrambling for the 0750 lines? Why data bundles/rates only ?Why
> >> >>>>>> > not
> >> >>>>>> the best
> >> >>>>>> > combi? In the end, whoever gives the whole package, carries the
> >> >>>>>> day.And
> >> >>>>>> > ultimately, the consumer wins. The race ain't over ...things are
> >> > just
> >> >>>>>> > warming up!
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> > ./bernard
> >> >>>>>> > sent from my android device.
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> > On Jul 25, 2011 7:33 PM, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >> You gotta love the business acumen (or spy tactics) that the
> >> >>>>>> >> shot
> >> >>>>>> >> callers at Safaricom have. Zain or Orange are probably about to
> >> >>>>>> launch
> >> >>>>>> >> their 3G at similar rates and now their punch is gone with the
> >> > wind.
> >> >>>>>> >> Interesting times ahead. . .
> >> >>>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >> On 7/25/11, Timothy Mutugi <timothymutugi@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>> Perhaps I can use the slow 128kbps (capped) unlimited plan I
> >> > bought
> >> >>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>> >>> torrent the whole night for the next 6 days...
> >> >>>>>> >>>
> >> >>>>>> >>> ...surely 128kbps is not good for anything else...I cannot even
> >> >>>>>> watch
> >> >>>>>> >>> a simple 240p youtube clip....Safaricom...please have mercy on
> >> >>>>>> >>> us...pleeeeeeease
> >> >>>>>> >>>
> >> >>>>>> >>> On 7/25/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>> Perhaps increasing the bandwidth is the way to go but uncapped
> >> >>>>>> bandwidth
> >> >>>>>> >>>> is
> >> >>>>>> >>>> too dangerous...all those hungry torrents just waiting to
> >> >>>>>> >>>> devour
> >> >>>>>> every
> >> >>>>>> >>>> space
> >> >>>>>> >>>> of bandwidth, just a few clients can bring down an entire
> >> >>>>>> > network...sigh,
> >> >>>>>> >>>> the perils of wireless technology...
> >> >>>>>> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> >>>> ./bernard
> >> >>>>>> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:43 AM, John Doe Smith Kamau
> >> > KipNg'etich
> >> >>>>>> Jones
> >> >>>>>> > <
> >> >>>>>> >>>> skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> Well, I like the 1k plan for a week of usage... but how do
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> they
> >> >>>>>> expect
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> that to compete with orange, whose 1k/week is uncapped?
> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> On 7/25/11, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > I believe the plans are designed with every user in
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > mind...The
> >> >>>>>> 4GB @
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> 2499/-
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > does just fine for me...the throttled unlimited plan, not
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > so.
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > ./bernard
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:16 AM, John Doe Smith Kamau
> >> >>>>>> KipNg'etich
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > Jones
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> <
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> > skunkworks.ku@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> 128 kbps..... thats a bit too tyt, and costly in terms of
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> the
> >> >>>>>> time
> >> >>>>>> > lost
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> waiting for that important attachment to finish
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> downloading..
> >> > if
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> there's a safcom snitch here, ambia boss 256-382kbps is
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> more
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> practical.... 16kBps... in this fibre era. yawa!
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> On 7/23/11, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> <kianiadee@gmail.com
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > Out of the millions you the one who made it seriously.
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > I rest..
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > On 22 Jul 2011 22:58, "Mark Mwangi" <mwangy@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > Classic Kiania response to anyone with a differing
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > opinion.
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > On Jul 22, 2011 10:12 PM, "David Kiania | Asentric
> >> > Consulting
> >> >>>>>> Ltd"
> >> >>>>>> > <
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >> ....
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > Skunkworks mailing list
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > ------------
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > Skunkworks Rules
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > ------------
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> >
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> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> ------------
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> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >> ------------
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> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> >
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> >> >>>>>> >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94
> >> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------
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> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
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> >> >>>>>> >>> ------------
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> >> >>>>>> >>>
> >> >>>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >> --
> >> >>>>>> >> Regards,
> >> >>>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >> Mark Mwangi
> >> >>>>>> >>
> >> >>>>>> >> http://mwangy.posterous.com
> >> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>>>>> >> ------------
> >> >>>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke
> >> >>>>>> >
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>> Regards,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Mark Mwangi
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> http://mwangy.posterous.com
> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>>>>> ------------
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> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> with Regards:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> blog.denniskioko.com <http://www.denniskioko.com/>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
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> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> “ *In brightest day, in blackest night,**No evil shall escape my
> >> > sight**Let
> >> >>>> those who worship evil's might,* *Beware my power... Green Lantern's
> >> >>>> light!* ”
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> —Hal Jordan/Many Current Lanterns
> >> >>>>
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