Hi,<br><br>The one reason why beba may not quite work with citi hoppa is because the company is more a name franchise if you may. most buses are owned and managed by individuals and as such if I have a single bus whats the need to have the beba agent on the bus?<br>
<br>Secondly, each bus thats part of the franchise pays a commission of KES1500 (might have gone up) every day it operates coupled with a few infractions with the money collecting guys that you didnot pay the full amount and you can start seeing why the beba card will not be a success.<br>
<br>Im not quite sure why they chose citi hoppa but KBS would have been a better choice unless the routes they ply was anything to go by.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM, gisho <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:gichuhie@gmail.com" target="_blank">gichuhie@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br clear="all"><span style="font-size:12px"><div><font face="&#39;courier new&#39;, monospace">NFC just enables retrieving of a unique ID from the tag which is then transmitted to the server with any other info for debits or credits via cellular network by an app in the phone.   </font></div>


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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Nicholas Mutinda <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mutindah@gmail.com" target="_blank">mutindah@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<br><div><br></div><div>The reason it is failing is that the conductors will not be able to make money on the side, since the beba agents are the ones collecting the money. The citi hoppa management should be keen on the beba card. It will help them minimise on the huge losses they incur to the crew handling the money<div>


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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:01 PM, lordmwesh <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lordmwesh@gmail.com" target="_blank">lordmwesh@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication</a> <div><br></div><div><b style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">Near field communication</b><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"> (</span><b style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">NFC</b><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">) is a set of standards for </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone" title="Smartphone" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">smartphones</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"> and similar devices to establish </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio" title="Radio" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">radio</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"> communication with each other by touching them together or bringing them into close proximity, usually no more than a few centimetres. Present and anticipated applications include contactless transactions, data exchange, and simplified setup of more complex communications such as </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi" title="Wi-Fi" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Wi-Fi</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">.</span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif"> Communication is also possible between an NFC device and an unpowered NFC </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit" title="Integrated circuit" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">chip</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:13px;font-family:sans-serif">, called a &quot;tag</span> <div>



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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 5 September 2012 11:51, Henry Kamabi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hkamabi@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkamabi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





hi Brian,<br>NFC...whats the logic...Kindly let me kno..<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Brian L <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lusiola@gmail.com" target="_blank">lusiola@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>






<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">@Henry</font></font><div><font><font face="trebuchet ms,sans-serif">it uses NFC<br>






</font></font><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Henry Kamabi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hkamabi@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkamabi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>First of all we need to understand Kenyans way of doing things n so understand kenya&#39;s ,market.<br>I dont know the technology they were using but i gess it gprs or so..what happens when there is no connection?<br>









USSD would have been appropriate or even predownloaded vouchers of different denomination.<br>I talked to one of the guys there n adviced on the same but then he said this was an already predesigned to work the way it works n no room for improvement..Wollah...na hii Kenya yetu.<br>









There are a co selling airtel called teleyetu.Its a project that works in an almost same way and fortunately the manufacturer(PSITEK) of the devices heeded to the facts on the ground and improved.Seemslike they are making it.<span><font color="#888888"><br>









<br><br>Henry,<br><br><br><br></font></span><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Dennis Kioko <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com" target="_blank">dmbuvi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>








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Was in a Citi Hoppa today where they have scratched out all those &quot;Beba&quot; stickers. The conductor, who was busy asking for change, said &quot;sina agent&quot; when I asked about the Beba Card. 
<div><br></div><div>The Beba card is a solution which would have gone very far in helping small matatu owners who have no idea how much was collected in their matatu and where it is. </div><div><br></div><div>I also think some Eastlands saccos would have been a better pilot such as Double M (Who I hear have quite a number of cases of conductors taking off with the days earnings) and maybe others like Embassava, which appear to be more disciplined than Hoppa. </div>










<div><br></div><div>Hoppa may have been a good pilot to rein in the indiscipline, but the problem here is that the crew ganged up against the card. Plus Citi Hoppa is already a step towards management. </div>
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