On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Martin Chiteri <martin.chiteri@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello @Aki,

I've tried very hard to provoke programmers into thinking and questioning the current status over the last 12 months, including patiently taking in some insults along the way after posting certain threads, all I ever read was excuses and defensive emails for not doing more. Programming is like Malaria to many coders, they are too scared and stay away from it. In the starting of the thread, I threw in a further angle i.e after 18 years of the first wiki creation, no Kenyan programmer has the slightest clue because if someone had taken the initiative, am sure they would not hold back on responding.

Once again, a small correction. At least I know one wiki type of system done in Kenya by a Kenyan and for the most part meant for Kenyans [ http://www.sciencehackday.or.ke/ ]. The source code is available here [ https://github.com/chiteri/shdnbi/ ] and I believe that you are aware of this, even though we kept the discussions off-list.

Am aware but a person of your calibre on programming should not be wasting time on such projects. There is much more you can achieve that can have a better impact.

Moving on, the wiki was not planned at all until I did the flow for kplc monitoring project, and seems the best way to do things. Once I crack this wiki creation obstacle and there are still many others to go, for me the possibilities are endless as it opens up new avenues for the code to be applied. I could invite others but this is not progressive, I'd prefer if others who are much ahead of me on programming to do better and bigger projects that will fulfil local creation/creative goals.

I'd also like to add a comment to those who are misleading others out there. Open Source is not programming, please stop this nonsense.

Let me try to justify the rationale behind FOSS. I will not quote it verbatim but from the Keynote of Mark Ramm on Django Conference 2008 [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fipFKyW2FA4 ], in his critique for the django Web development framework he says that, "No matter how much innovative and smart you think you are within your organization (e.g at Google / Microsoft / Apple), there will always have a larger number of smart and more innovative people outside your organization than inside it. That is why you have to always be on the lookout and copy their ideas if they are better.".

Please say so if you need any help :D

Martin.

I appreciate the offer but I need to figure out the wiki structure on my own however am in total disagreement with you on the above point. Will take this up some other time when we can go point-point on this. :-)