I think some things are not too clear.<br><br>- There&#39;s no such thing as a &#39;fake phone&#39;. After all so called fake phones can make and receive calls... <br><br>- One can conceivably have a &#39;forged&#39; IMEI though. The GSMA is responsible for issuing and maintaining the IMEI number and database. Each mobile phone manufacturer is then assigned the IMEI numbers for their devices.<br>
<br>Some IMEIs are blacklisted mostly due to theft of phone - report to police, after due process<br><br>I would think this is the primary reason for all this.<br><br><br>The short code is free for the first (I think ) 3 messages. I know I didn&#39;t get charged for the first text I sent in....<br>
<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Tusker 21 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tusker212@gmail.com" target="_blank">tusker212@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
This sounds like fiction. I doubt if this guys really have the best of our interests?<div><br></div><div><ul><li>Is the verification process where you send the IMEI no to a short code charged? </li></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">

<div><b>If so Multiply the cost by all the active subscribers.</b></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><ul><li>Is there anything like a fake phone? what does it do?</li></ul></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">

<div><b>Register on the network. Make/Receive calls and messages</b></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><ul><li>What happens on people who put their phone on roaming profile when they visit the country?</li></ul></div>

<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><b>Will their &quot;phones&quot; - if fake be switched off.</b></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><ul><li>Say 5M subscribers have their phones switched off. Will the telcos sit down and make loses</li>

</ul></div><div>The worse thing though is the PS saying &quot;<b>We sneaked in the law in the finance bill&quot;</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Sneaked bills!!! Really.</div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div><br>

</div><div>Tusker21<div><div class="h5"><br><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bmwagiru@gmail.com" target="_blank">bmwagiru@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If CCK enforces this conformity i.e. network EIR connect to GSMA IMEI DB, then it will make sense. Otherwise, if one opco blacklists an IMEI but the other doesn&#39;t, then their efforts will bare no fruits.<span><font color="#888888"><br>

<br>./bernard</font></span><div><div><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Josiah Mugambi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:josiah.mugambi@gmail.com" target="_blank">josiah.mugambi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


If you haven&#39;t looked at this, it will make some things clear: <a href="http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database/" target="_blank">http://www.gsma.com/technicalprojects/fraud-security/imei-database/</a><br>


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Particularly of interest are these paragraphs:<br><br><p style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;outline:0px none;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:normal;color:rgb(47,47,47);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;margin:0px 0px 20px 40px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;border:0px none;word-spacing:0px">



The IMEI DB also supports what is known as a “black list”. The black list is a list of IMEIs that are associated with mobile devices that should be denied service on mobile networks because they have been reported as lost, stolen, faulty or otherwise unsuitable for use. Previously known as the Central Equipment Identify Register (CEIR), the IMEI DB acts as a central system for network operators to share their individual black lists so that devices denied service (blacklisted) by one network will not work on other networks even if the SIM card in the device is changed.</p>



<p style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;outline:0px none;padding:0px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:normal;color:rgb(47,47,47);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;margin:0px 0px 20px 40px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;border:0px none;word-spacing:0px">



Network operators who deploy Equipment Identity Registers (EIR) in their networks use them to keep their own lists of blacklisted lost or stolen phones. Operators’ EIRs automatically connect to the IMEI DB to share their latest lists of blacklisted devices with other operators. The IMEI DB takes the black lists from the various operators around the world that are connected to system and it compiles the data into one global black list. When a network operator EIR subsequently connects to the IMEI DB, it downloads the latest global black list (or a national or regional subset of the global list) for its own use. By loading the IMEI DB black list onto the local EIR, all handsets reported as stolen on other connected networks up to the previous day are now also capable of being blocked on that network.</p>



<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Philip Musyoki <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pmusyoki@gmail.com" target="_blank">pmusyoki@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


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While they are at it, let the switch off all the fake network cards with fake MAC Addresses.<div><br></div>
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