Wash,
The guys I meant are the ones who I suspect (and here I would be assuming) ended their education at F4, and probably just met the threshold of intake. The reason I say this is from the ones I've interacted with, quite a large percentage you cannot argue with or make to see reason. I don't know if it's because of their education level or just culture of the police force. Same situation that happens in traffic. I know it's wrong to put a blanket judgement on the whole force but I guess it's my frustration