my problem with such articles is that it reinforces the notion that 3rd world countries are ruled and inhabited by barbarians and need western help to do anything constructive. So there was violence in 2007/2008, so we still have the perpetrators loose. Big deal. If any conflict makes a country a failed state then no country even the holier-than-though US is exempt. They went through more than enough bloodshed in their infancy for them to take higher ground and publish such reports. Am not saying the reports are wrong or inaccurate. Am just saying lending them credence and weight is rather timid. Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com My profiles: [image: Facebook] <http:www.facebook.com/Eng.Kangy> [image: Twitter] <www.twitter.com/Mwangy> Signature powered by <http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extension&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=footer> WiseStamp<http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install?utm_source=extension&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=footer> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Kevin Ouma <kevin.ouma@gmail.com> wrote:
I tend to concur with Mr Juma and perhaps to some extent agree with the article.
For one we still do not have judicial and police mechanisms that work. I know we may argue that we now have a new constitution but the last I checked this process has ground to a halt.
In the meantime political and tribal tensions seem to be rising almost giving me a dejavu feeling of 2007. Will 2012 make it look like a Christmas party ?
Cheers Kevin
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Richard Gathogo <muraguri2005@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi guys, I think it is important for whoever is saying that Kenya is a failed state to think twice about the statement. Some people may have failed yes, but I don't think we have all failed. Based on available resources and exposure I think as individuals we are doing fine. I think each country has its challenges. None is perfect. Regards Richard Gathogo.
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:49 PM, @dutchezjuma <dutchez8@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Mwangy i read the article and it makes sense to me. Lets not stay in denial of whats is true to us.
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
Who cares what some article by some guy seated in some city in another country says? If an article was written calling all of us fools would you believe it just because someone said so? What does it matter that he thinks we are a failed state ? Are you a failed citizen?
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Patrick Karanja <wabethi@gmail.com>wrote:
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:30 PM, solomon kariri < solomonkariri@gmail.com> wrote:
> We are totally failed. A complete failure. > > > Those are pretty strong words. what matters most is the perception, in the end that is what carries the day in the eyes of the foreign news editors
regards
Patrick
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