And where did I say that? Try calling me that in person and you will get a clear understanding of how I feel about it! :) On 19 June 2012 14:51, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
So its Ok for an African-American using the N word but no one else? Does it change the fact, if at all?
./bernard
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
List them! I would rather have a fellow African(Black or otherwise) correct me harshly than a Korean/Briton/Israeli call me indigenous/disease-laden/'cancer in the body'! You say we've brought it upon ourselves, no?
On 19 June 2012 14:39, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Was Miri Regev referal to Sudannese immigrants as a "cancer in the body" a slip of the tongue too?
Or perhaps there's some truth in all these 'slips' ? I for one can provide several examples of "primitive energy of indigenous Kenyan people"..
./bernard
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com> wrote:
Pole for cross-posting...
If you thought the Koreans were 'bloody bure' for calling you and I primitive, you will be shocked to learn The U.K's (dis)Honourable Health Minister thinks we all have some weird diseases! Here's the link,read it to the last paragraph... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18476308 . I think some of these things are more than mere slips of the tongue. The mouth speaks what is in the heart and this just shows some people have very little regards for people who live in Africa!
On 19 June 2012 09:39, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
Another explanation is that these gooks realy didnt mean to offend. They may be victim of poor translation into broken Korean "Igrish" just like the popular "All your base are belong to us<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us>" maneno!
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@Lloyd 'primitive Energy' could be 'pure energy' which is complimentary.
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>wrote:
> Lloyd, in the second lesson you said Korean's instead of Koreans. > :-) so all this explanation refuses to run, just as you have > explained in your conclusion. > On Jun 19, 2012 1:55 AM, "Lloyd Njunge" <njungelloyd@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> In retrospect of today's outrage by #KOT on what i shall deem a >> "perceivably offensive statement", one must truly stand in awe. >> >> Because it is all about perception, isnt it? I mean, the term >> "Primitive Energy" at first glance might be deemed offensive, but >> why >> so? >> >> Could it be due to the vastly misconstrued nature of the word >> "Primitive" as a demeaning noun or adjective? Coupled with societal >> conditioning to regard the same as such? >> >> Outcome being even a casual glance to a dictionary to see AND >> understand it's explicit as well as implicit meaning is an >> unthinkable >> notion. >> >> Scoring major points for both "Herd Mentality and Societal >> Self-Policing" that are so painfully rampant nowadays. >> >> Lets work under the premises that >> 1. Any language and in this particular case English is by it's most >> intrinsic definition simply "Syntax & Semantics". >> >> 2. And even at the very least, Std. 6 level grammar knowlege is >> still >> intact in the mind one anyone that "took offence" to the term >> "Primitive Energy". >> >> Right of the bat, syntax wise it is painfully apparent the word >> "Primitive" is preceeding "Energy". >> And while Energy is unarguably a NOUN, Primitive is performing a >> delimiting/descriptive function, and is therefore an ADJECTIVE. >> >> So the NOUN being delimited or described further is actually >> Energy... >> NOT Kenyans! :) >> >> Semantics wise: The resulting meaning of the term then becomes? >> For that, lets refer to what the Dictionary say about the word >> "Primitive" in adjective form? >> "Relating to, denoting or >> preserving >> an early stage in the evolutionary or historic development of >> someTHING!" >> >> Which complimentary as it may be in the descriptive sense with >> regard >> to our (Kenyans) Energy, makes even less semantic sense and is thus >> grammaticaly wrong! >> >> Seeing as how Energy is in a perpetual state of flux thus NEVER >> constant or as stated in the definition "preservable"! >> >> But lets not split hairs on Energy, the real issue/culprit here is >> the >> word "Primitive", and surprise sur-damn-prise! S. Korea Airlines >> didnt >> refer to Kenyans as primitive. How about that? :) >> >> But before one could even say... "I take offence to that"... BAM! >> A twitter trend expressing sarcasm in the form of jokes as well as >> others with genuine outrage. And all i could think was, are you >> kidding me?! >> >> If anything, the reaction validated the NOUN form of the word >> "Primitive" that is defined as a person belonging to a pre-literate >> era. Because, lets face it, If you cant read or probably can but not >> able to understand or contextualize a language, both are sailors of >> the same sea vessel righfully christened, "The illiterate". >> >> The mind being an Organic Computer too obeys the GIGO principle in >> full. >> Garbage In: Code/Language compiled (passed through an interpreter) >> that does it tragically wrong i.e Ignoring Syntax. >> >> Garbage Out: Refer to the #PrimitiveEnergy hashtag courtesy of #KOT >> on >> Twitter yesterday morning. I.e Exception Error, lets face it, it was >> "exceptional" LQTM. >> >> LESSONS LEARNT? >> 1. Speaking English and Knowing English are mutually exclusive and >> #KOT proved that. >> From the generic tweep, to the self appointed "Grammar Nazis" that >> never miss an opportunity to showcase their "mastery and prowress" >> of >> the English Language. >> But most painful of all... The bloggers! LoL! >> One would expect Knowledge of English to be , oh i dunno... A >> friggin >> occupational requirement maybe?! >> >> But i do recall a humorous statement from the movie "CONTAGION" in >> which a character refer's to Blogging as "Graffiti with >> Punctuation". >> I must say... Some (not all) #KOT Bloggers made a serious case for >> the >> statement's validity. >> >> 2. Korean's might know more english than us Kenyans! You know... >> colonized for centuries by the BRITISH from friggin ENGland and all! >> Please say it aint so! >> >> 3. Probably most disturbing of all, intake of information with a >> filtered and biased mind set that would rather rush to think the >> worst, act and feel extremely justified in doing so. >> >> And if this is how "The Educated Class" reacts, what of those less >> fortunate or not priviledged enough not to have attained a supposed >> level of mental clarity and logical thought ability? >> Can the information filtering and mental bias be applied to >> rationalize how PEV or Genocides have occured in the past and may >> very >> well do so again in our very own back yard come 2013? >> >> DISCLAIMER >> I am by no measure or form an expert on the language myself, far >> from >> it. I consider myself a life time student of English. >> >> And lastly perhaps a most fitting analogy this being a Techie forum >> to >> begin with; if theres anything i have learned and agonizingly still >> continue to do so through my Software Design experience, a single >> misplaced "dot" or perhaps lack of a "semi-colon" can result in a >> program with even 10000000 lines of code refusing to run. Just >> because >> of "." or ";"... So watch the goddamn language pris! >> >> On 6/18/12, hellen masita <hellenmasita@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > hope none of you are missing this amazing occurrence. it seems >> kenyans are >> > bustling with a new kind of energy called primitive energy. as >> they say >> > "nyani haoni kundule" >> > follow line if you are curious. >> > http://www.koreanair.com/etc/img/ft/ne/2012/05/nbo_eng.jpg >> > >> > in case you are wondering, i am positively fuming and so are >> Kenyans on >> > Twitter (#KOT). What't your take? >> > >> > Ujinga ni kukosa kuosha kifua kwasababu roho ni safi >> > >> > :) >> > >> >> >> -- >> Kind Regards, >> >> *Njung'e N. Lloyd >> Cell: +254 723 739 733* >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> ------------ >> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > ------------ > List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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