OK...

Now here is my two cents on this.

Lots of contributions here are actually valid... the need to get proper content on the media, the need for equal and valuable coverage and also, the state of technology in media. We are at a needy stage... but my view is that the only person trying to do something on this and trying to get a light on the ICT issues and developments in the media is Larry Madowo, and here we are criticizing him and telling him off.

I think Larry is a good example... he is not trained as an IT pro but he has gone beyond heights to familiarize himself with what is happening and he is quite informed in IT issues if you compare him with any other journalist we have.

Another thing I can say about Larry is he is one of the few journalists I know with integrity in this country. I would confidently challenge anyone who has a case against his integrity to come forward and say it.

What we can do is basically inform Larry on whatever is happening, suggest things that he needs to cover and also guide him on some matters. It is vital that we appreciate his efforts and realize that he is also trying to work in a media setup that is not necessarily the easiest to work with.

Lets not fight but support Larry. I have talked to him on several occasions on different issues and I can tell he has every intention to make a good mark on ICT Journalism.

David.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:32 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
There are two things you can do with feedback accept or reject. It was
never my intention to attack you, you are judged by your work which
happens to be very public, an open to scrutiny.

Your news items question everything from government policy, economic
and management decisions, feels strange being under scrutiny ne?

I close my remarks as well.

Kiania D.



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
> David,
>
> In all honesty, I think you're now nitpicking. I wouldn't continue
> responding to this if I didn't value the feedback. Taking different
> statements out of context and attacking me based on them is hardly
> responsible or fair.
>
> I would like to close my responses to this thread with that.
>
> Good evening
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2011, at 7:01 PM, "David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd"
> <kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Larry,
>>
>> This would be hilarious, if it wasn't so tragic. Who do you think
>> watches your content? You clearly don't consider the people talking to
>> you here as feedback. Get this you are producing stuff we giving you
>> our feedback and your response it "Am afraid some of you just have no
>> understanding how the media works and make wholesale condemnations or
>> judgements based on scanty evidence". We can tell you what we don't
>> want.
>>
>> Do you think people asking for contacts is feedback? Your friends and
>> foe are all in this list and let me remind you, the media shelf life
>> is rather short. A cursory analysis of where are they now media
>> personalities will bear witness.
>>
>> 5 emails a week seriously dude?? an email a day.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Larry Madowo <larrymads@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>> I've read all the contributions on this thread - even the extremely
>>> engaging
>>> OT - with growing amusement. Am afraid some of you just have no
>>> understanding how the media works and make wholesale condemnations or
>>> judgements based on scanty evidence.
>>> I agree that Jeff Koinange does a great job on Capital Talk and I can't
>>> begin to compare myself with him, not least because of his years of
>>> experience. Having said that, I think I try my ultimate best to give
>>> every
>>> side of a story equal airtime. Let me cite the most recent example. I
>>> interview the Airtel boss Rene Meza on the same day they introduced their
>>> feelanga free tariff and gave him a platform to state his case. Two days
>>> later, I had Safaricom's Bob Collymore where he called Airtel's price
>>> move
>>> 'morally reprehensible. And two days later, I had Orange's Mickael
>>> Ghossein
>>> who called Airtel a 'vegetable company' and agreed with Bob. Only yu
>>> haven't
>>> come through but we gave them the opportunity and they declined.
>>> About taking in viewer feedback, practically every show on every channel
>>> ends with contact info for getting in touch and I can tell you, most
>>> people
>>> do not. In the few instances when they do, they mostly ask for contacts
>>> of
>>> someone featured on those shows. On Money Matters for instance, we get
>>> just
>>> about 5 emails a week that are of suggestions about what to have on the
>>> show. The rest want contacts or just write to say they like the show.
>>> I can't say I do the best job on local TV, but I think I try my damn best
>>> not to waste our viewers' time. Please give credit where it's due.
>>> And I welcome comments, suggestions, critiques and goofy caps.
>>> LARRY
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Edward Obiko <edobie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> @Steve Couldn't have put it better. I had a friend who was once shot
>>>> in the same fashion. Only reason he survived, luckily, was that he
>>>> corroborated with the cops story that he was a victim of a stray
>>>> bullet, that being since too would have witnessed
>>>>
>>>> On 1/21/11, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Odhiambo Washington
>>>>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liwindi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is already in place laws to deal with misuse of firearms by
>>>>>> officers
>>>>>> of the disciplined forces. Within these setups, there are very strict
>>>>>> ways
>>>>>> for accounting for any weapons used (read bullets), and internal
>>>>>> processes
>>>>>> are there to determine if such use is legal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wash,
>>>>>
>>>>> Then the rules simply don't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> 9 Dec 2009: my cousin Martin is jacked by thugs, who then abandon him
>>>>> and jack a couple. They take his car keys. Neighbours who respond to
>>>>> the alarm, and some two APs, determine he's not one of the thugs when
>>>>> they search him and his car. A few minutes later, regulars come and
>>>>> shoot him four times at point-blank range. On 11th Dec I identify his
>>>>> body at City Morgue, and when we inquire further, the coverup story is
>>>>> that there was a shootout, another story that he had an AK, another
>>>>> one that he had a pistol, then another story that he was running away
>>>>> (never mind all the entry wounds are up front, and there were
>>>>> eyewitnesses) etc....
>>>>>
>>>>> October 2010: Nganga Kariuki and his sister are carjacked at gunpoint.
>>>>> They're cornered by cops, the thugs bolt, but the cops still spray the
>>>>> car with bullets and kill the 23-year old and injure his sister.
>>>>>
>>>>> November 2010: Rachel Nduta (a friend and Family Bank employee) is
>>>>> attacked by thugs who abandon her car and bundle her into the one
>>>>> they've already jacked. They're cornered, she identifies herself and
>>>>> pleads to be spared, but the cops shoot her over 10 times point blank.
>>>>> They also do the same to the owner of the car she was in.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are all people I knew personally, dead at the hands of police,
>>>>> within one year. In all these cases, they were innocent, and had the
>>>>> cops arrested them and verified their story, they'd be alive today.
>>>>> I'm not trying to exonerate the guys who were killed, but all I'm
>>>>> trying to say here is that whenever you read in the news that some
>>>>> "notorious elements" were shot dead "after engaging my boys in a
>>>>> shootout", take it with a pinch of salt.
>>>>>
>>>>> BR
>>>>> S
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