This looks like holy war between network engineers. Reminds me of those epic eclipse vs netbeans battles.

On 25 August 2016 at 08:36, Stephen Munguti via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Also P routers are for the sake of the ISP sanity. But the fact that you are asking why we need them(are the customers paying for them) further proves my point, our ISPs are just not ready to carry some services over mpls. We should stick to our current transmission based solutions.

Finally the MPLS featurs outlined above requires a certain level of expertise in all providers because of how they are interlinked. I doubt that's gonna happen. 

That's my opinion, nobody has to listen to it.

On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:

You should ask yourself why trill uses ISIS

On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:

IMHO personal/individual preference is the answer - not current feature sets - at least not here in KE as yet, to the best of my knowledge. But it is worth asking around to get to know more.

Regards,

Michuki.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm@gmail.com> wrote:

In large scale proper MPLS networks. 

IS-IS supports TE integration

IS-IS uses tlvs which makes it easier to extend it capabilities.

Back when i ran networks early 2000s and had 3 x 9600 baud-rate modems between Malindi and Mombasa. IS-IS TE integration would have worked great for me. Today when i have 1G and 10G ports between cities and ability to create LAGs on switches. Yet despite the lack of IS-IS TE, OSPF was rock solid in load balancing traffic across the 3 links. 

Points well noted. 

 

Can handle both IPv6 and IPv4

So does OSPFv3 :). not so direct though. But it does. 

 

That said none of the kenyan ISP I have seen have P routers, Just interlinked PE routers. No carrier supporting carrier integrations, no interprovider MPLS customers, no multicast MPLS integrations and hence my earlier comments.

Seriously ... do customers pay extra for these solutions ?. 

Regards,

Michuki.

 

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