Mark, that is true.



On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
I cringe when venture capital is seen to be the saviour of enterpreneurs.

Money is a challenge yes but it is not what determines a businesses success. Most startups that I see looking for funding  barely have paying customers. I think showing a revenue stream and potential growth will interest even commercial banks. but the "free" VC money will only bring problems and exploitation by the actual owners of the startup, Whoever gave you the money. 


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Eva Kimathi <evakimathi@gmail.com> wrote:
I like what Olive said, about venture capital and private equities. 


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:
Its as simple as this. I am a manager at Safaricom and my performance contract has put me on the chopping board for underperforming. Then a startup who knows a friend who knows I work for Safaricom comes to me and therein lies my chance to salvage my job. I go for it, implement the idea with the boss, get a promotion and leave the startup distraught. I will most likely be in an authoritative position to respond to accusations once the startup complains. Then I head to the beach.

All in a days work.


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
by the way.. Who Gives Safaricom any idea!! Its a never ever...


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it is time for 'startups' to consider Venture capital and private equities.

This way we will get in to the right partnerships, well documented and have bargaining power when it comes to negotiating with Giants. 

The business department of any company is always looking for award winning ideas, they will listen to you, think through it as they guide you to disclose what you have and as soon as they get it. Its just a twist away and PAP! they are gone.




On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Antony Kimani <kimanianthoni@gmail.com> wrote:
Give Safaricom Ideas week ... I like that LOL 


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 6:38 AM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes let's have a 'give Safaricom ideas' week. They have the money the people the platforms and well we have the problems. I started his mail out as a joke but realized that this could work. Subject line could simply be [safaricom ideas] .... Like please can I have network in my kitchen or fiber in my house .... I'd love a flying unicorn too 

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On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:17, matere lusitche <kenyabizideas@gmail.com> wrote:

I am actually giving out my ideas to safaricom for free. Just emailed one idea last month and will do so next month.
One cannot patent a social innovation .
Also however great my idea is,  it can only work on the m-pesa backbone.

On Aug 25, 2013 11:37 AM, "Kebaya" <humphreykebaya@gmail.com> wrote:
you cannot patent a way of doing business. dnt waste time taking
safaricom to court. its a lost case.

On 25/08/2013, Vincent Kiama <vinikiama@gmail.com> wrote:
> its rather logic.swiming with the sharks
>


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