We complain that most IT projects are given to foreigners by government and wonder whether we don't have the the skills and capacity locally, yet the interesting part is that even us in the industry take away these jobs from ourselves with the same excuse we don't have capacity.

Bottom line is we will never grow and we will whine till we die leaving a third world country behind for the next generation.

FYI: that "expensive" price you would pay to angani is likely to come back to your pocket if it says within the economy.

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On Jul 15, 2014, at 19:19, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

Corporates care about business continuity, SLAs and having someone they can complain to(Support). That's why they pay top dollar for stuff you can get for free -word processors, OSs, storage etc.

Latency is important if you are running cloud enterprise apps, rather double digit latency than 400 ms.

On 15 Jul 2014 19:09, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
And no, I don't work for Digital Ocean, i just think that the value for money you get from them is way higher than any of the local hosting providers.

But I am sure @Adam and the good folks at angani are close to figuring out a way of getting the cost way way down, so its a matter of time.



On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Dennis, I thought corporates care about the bottom line?

With a few clever tweaks at all layers of a web application, the latency bit ceases to be a deal breaker. Especially given an SSD HDD. Remember, disk IO is almost always the slowest bit.

Therefore, only one argument stands; paying KES 1224 per month to have my services under Kenya's jurisdiction :-)



On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, at least you can call the Kili.io and Angani guys or have physical meetings with them. You also get better latency and have your services under Kenya's jurisdiction, basically, stuff that corporates care about.

On 15 Jul 2014 17:20, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Assuming USD$ 1 = KES 85

Digital Ocean = USD$ 5 per month (KES 425)

Kili.io = about USD$ 14.4 per month (i.e. assuming a 30 day month, at USD$0.02 per hour, 30*24*0.02) (KES 1224)





On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Joseph M. Owino <jpmuga@tespok.co.ke> wrote:
Hi,

what do you mean ridiculous pricing?? How much do you think cloud vms cost?

regards
Muga

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On Jul 15, 2014 3:00 PM, "James Gutu" < jmgutu@gmail.com > wrote:



Check out https:// angani .co



On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 2:34 PM, David Njuguna < dnjuguna@gmail.com > wrote:



Which companies are these? Other than Kili.io I am unaware of any other capable of delivering PAAS.


David



On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Joseph M. Owino < jpmuga@tespok.co.ke > wrote:


Hi,

As a kenyan do you think its okay that the Nairobi County Government website is being hosted by Amazon? There are many companies in Kenya who can manage a simple county government website or what is not right about hosting it here?


nairobi.go.ke (IP: 205.251.232.38)


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JP

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