By the way this is a very nice discussion to be debated at the fourthcoming Internet Governance Forum, www.intgovforum.org On 5/20/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
As mzee moi would say siasa mbaya, maisha mbaya, that is democracy.
On 5/20/11, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
This negative energy argument mystifies me. I believe the constitution entitles everyone to freedom of speech. These people find Safaricom objectionable and are expressing themselves. It came across to me as a mixture of a parody and a forum for aggrieved customers to share.
Safaricom has every right to take them to court if they feel the site slanders them. If they have in any way broken the law let the full force of the law take it's course.
I find the idea that Safaricom is somehow sacred because it is a big company and we have shares in it ludicrous.
I would not mind if it was shut down because it was found to be illegal.
But 'negative energy'? No.
There is no law that says we must be 'positive'. We must be mature enough to be able to take positive criticism in out stride. We must also be able to shrug off unwarranted criticism. Time is very kind to the truth and does not need our assistance.
That's the thing with democracy. You might find others' ideas objectionable but you'd better fight for their right to express them. Or one day your own will be classifies as 'negative energy', an excuse might i remind that dictators are fond of when dealing with dissent.
Give thanks to the Jaramogis and Shikukus of this world who refused to toe the line of 'non negativity' and opened the doors to multiparty democracy.
On Friday, May 20, 2011, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok3, its not a question of loving or hating a company its a question of culture, if you are dissatisfied with a company take it to court, we don't need this kind of negative energy when we are building foundations of our economy, let's be objective there is the letter of the law and the spirit, let's uphold the spirit.
On 5/20/11, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Who gives anyone the right to decide what the owner of the domain intends to do with it - if you think its malice, thats your issue, not the owners. I think Mich has pointed out everything in the way it should be. If you love SafferingCon, please know that there are millions of others who hate it and they have a right to their own opinion.
./Ok3ch
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
a whois query shows the domain as active, this could have little to do with Kenic
++++++ there's an app for that :-p
On May 19, 2011 7:02 PM, "Barrack Otieno" <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
@ Mich well said but in this case the intention is clear, smells Malice. Cheers!
On 5/19/11, Michuki Mwangi <michuki.mwangi@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/19/11 5:15 PM, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd wrote: >> Does this mean that KeNic can be arm twisted into DE-registering >> account of another company. Minch what is the true position on >> this? > > I dont know what the current dispute resolution policy says - hence > it > would probably require legal interpretation. > > IMHO www.safaricon.co.ke is not safaricom.co.ke hence the issue of > registration "in bad faith" would only come into play if they were > using the said content on a domain like safaricom.or.ke or something > similar to safaricom. > > Do you remember the story of www.whitehouse.gov, whitehouse.org and > www.whitehouse.gov?. If not > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehouse.com > > IMHO, where the name is different that cannot be interpreted to be > in > bad faith since the domain or the name safaricon doesnt belong to > them. > > In other words, the same folks can go and register a domain with a > completely different name and still achieve the same objectives. > KENIC > would have no grounds to shut them down. So if the posting is > correct, > they are likely going to go to an TLD outside Kenya (see above > whitehouse.gov story) so it would be a different level of engagement > for > Safaricom when someone registers safaricon.com which as we speak is > open > for registration! :| > > KENIC are likely to open a pandora's box because it means anyone who > registers a name in future like safaricom.or.ke or safaricon.or.ke > will > likely have a problem too. wont they? > > my 2 cents! > > Regards, > > Michuki. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 -- Sent from my mobile device
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