Sometimes it is just impossible to use a pure series battery system. We have industrial inverters that run on 48V or 96V and with need to handle a lot of AH to provide uninterrupted supply of power. Now if you are to stick on a series connection only, you will only have 4 12V batteries connected by series to produce 48 V, and this reduces the AH.

With a series-parallel connection, you can have as large a battery bank as you want. You can connect 48 V series systems in Parrnell to create a huge inverter/battery systems. I believe this is the kind telcos use for base stations.

But also the quality of inverter and battert dpeneds. Cheaper batteries with acid may not do it. There are maintenance free sealed batteries which are more suited for this purpose.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tony White <tony.mzungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Aki,

Excellent assessment - and ascii art ;)

Just one small point: - it's not a good idea to put batteries in
parallel.  You will run into problems with charging, and the imbalance
between batteries will lead to one battery discharging through
another.  That's why the cells of a battery are in series, and why
larger ups have many batteries in series - hence working on very high
DC bus.  I saw one case of batteries in parallel where one of the
batteries boiled off all the sulphuric acid, producing clouds of
corrosive gas! - and the battery melted!

There *are* systems which use batteries in parallel - but these
systems have complex control systems to selectively connect or
disconnect individual batteries from the common DC bus.

The best way to get larger capacity is to use big individual (2V)
cells - as telcos do for their 48V DC bus.

Tony


2009/7/17 aki <aki275@googlemail.com>:
> While the rationing is forecast, It reminds me of the last time we had this.
> At that time, I designed a 2KVA invertor system from scratch with power
> MOSFETS which ran on 2 lead acid batteries with an external charger ( 100ah
> ). This thing ran for 7 hours continuos powering a 30amp load. This time
> around, no need for that as many things are cheaply available.
>
> noise free minimum requirements, power delivery at least 8 hrs at 40% load :
>
> - Power 2 energy saving bulbs. These are the AC philips 8watt ( 40 watt
> output ). DC load on good quality cable : 0.5amps max each
>
> - Laptop and charger. DC load on good quality cable : 2 amps max
>
> -  Printer ( inkjet, not laser ) . DC load on good quality cable : 4amps max
>
> - Wifi Router. DC load on good quality cable : 0.1 amp max
>
> cheap options available :
>
> - For lighting, I can use DC flourecent tube 8Watt. These run on 12 VDC. run
> a separate DC line from the batteries @ 0.2amp each.
>
> - Use an invertor or modify a 650VA UPS for AC supply. split the DC and AC
> circuits while good ventilation is important
>
> - Purchase 2 batteries ( 100ah each stacked in parallel, total 200ah )
> sealed maintainence free type ( must be in ventilated area )
>
> - purchase a single solar panel with line charger or incase of UPS, increase
> charging transformer size. Or AC charger upto 10amps.
>
> sketch :
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!             !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !    charging   !------------!    Invertor/    !-----------------AC Output (
> fused protection)
> !system+batt !            !          UPS   !
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!            !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>          !
>          !-------------------------------------------------------------DC
> Output ( fused protection )
>
>  ( correct as necessary )
>
>
>
>
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