here is another one, can ethernet over power lines go past my electric meter to my neighbours then down the street? or will a transformer mess things up as there is no direct connection (primary and secondary windings kind of stuff)

additionally, what throughputs would one expect with such a venture? 10? 100? 1000Mbps?

maybe that might work for you @david. just hook up at your place and then hook up at your neighbours and youre good to go.
:-)

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com> wrote:
Hehe, this one is tricky. Let me ask someone then I see if I can get some info.


On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:31 AM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:
This is through private property. I am hoping to make it a DIY project
so actual price from someone who has already done this will be very
helpful.

Thanks

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com> wrote:
> David,
> Looks like there is no infrastructure of sorts in that area.
> Whether copper or fiber, you will "have to cater for civil works,
> trenching license, terminal equipment e.t.c" just as 'techi' put it.
> However, without much rhetoric, just look for quotes from different
> contractors! Its not a definite price value for such a project.
> And on another note..is this distance within a private property or through
> other private/public properties. In case of the property being exclusive,
> you can just consider trenchworks, then use repeaters/switches for a
> standard CAT5 ethernet cables in 100meter intervals!!  (I don't know even if
> that works, but if done well, it can give you 100Mbps = LAN speeds!)
> Otherwise, just request for quotes for the works from contractors and do
> price comparisons!!
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What I am looking for is a cost comparison for copper and fibre over a
>> 500M distance. Wifi is not an option here.
>>
>> Does anyone have an idea how much the actual cost will be? I am certian
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:17 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi David,
>> >
>> > Depending on the capacity and latency requirements, you can also
>> > consider
>> > outdoor Wi-Fi (not recommended for voice traffic).
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, techi <myskunkworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> @David
>> >>
>> >> I think Gregory has a good point. It is cost effective to use copper if
>> >> u
>> >> are to do it on your own, especially if it is within the same compound.
>> >> However, your challenge is the 500m distance. This may not be covered
>> >> using copper and thus the best option is to obtain a fiber link through
>> >> a
>> >> provider. This way, you don't have to cater for civil works, trenching
>> >> license, terminal equipment e.t.c
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If there is already existing infrastructure from a provider within
>> >>> that
>> >>> location, fiber is a good option. For you setting up the link
>> >>> yourself,
>> >>> copper is the way to go.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> i would love this answer too, especially factoring in costs,
>> >>>> practicality and termination. Forget throughput... :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:12 AM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Supposing I wanted a network link to connect two premises 500 metres
>> >>>>> apart; Between copper and fibre optic what would be the Skunkworks
>> >>>>> choice?
>> >>>>>
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