Skunkers, far and above what iebc is going through, dont you think our software engineers (kenyanborn) could have developed a sysytem that could have stood the test of this election. Mr. Kukubo who is in this list and i believe many IT managers in Kenya could have brought up the opportunity for Kenyans to develop their own to manage their own. There is a level of kudharau to our software and even network engineers in Kenya. It must stop. On Mar 6, 2013 1:15 PM, "Rad!" <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
See? The last bastion of "professionals"
And yet ATMs, MPesa etc run on Windows.
Bad craftsmen blame their tools
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Alex Nyalita wrote:
Wait... a Windows platform for a mission critical system? SMDH!!!
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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Patrick Kariuki < patrick.kariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
Where the experiential learning cycle comes in, when you've got all the time in the world; 1. What happened to the system? (we have little or no idea) 2. What was experienced by the end user? (some error message) 3. Why did this happen? (come up with all kinds of possible assumptions on what happened - based on similar error messages you've had with different production systems) 4. What is to be done to avoid future occurrences?(give free advise, we know they're reading this - wait, isn't someone getting paid to do all these??)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
What I've noticed I'm my short experience is decimation of lessons learnt. Between us we have years of technical hands-on, get-your-hands-dirty experience. What we should discuss in this thread, IMHO, is potential design flaws. Without quoting any press on who said what or where. Whiteafrican has a high level call flow on the various interconnecting elements. We can use that for starters.
http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/
./bernard On Mar 6, 2013 10:18 AM, "Tech List Kenya" <techlistkenya@gmail.com> wrote:
It's our professional duty and responsibility to question this. In as much as IEBC needs time to sort themselves, and inasmuch as we acknowledge that things go wrong, we cannot just sweep it under the carpet and shrug it off. Sorry to say, that's just plain irresponsible.
Most of you know how much clients ride you to deliver, even clients who don't pay. Especially these ones. Now imagine a client paying 9b! I am always amused at how much slack we want to cut guys who undercut us.
Anyway, back to issue at hand.
@Mwagiru, can you lead a virtual team to conceptualize a proper voting
@Hans, the doc you posted shows the RFP as of Dec. With screenshots from both mobile and desktop apps. This means the system had already been developed. So what is the point of failure? If we say the failure is not in transmission but rather in processing, does that mean the data is already at IEBC servers? What would be the technological reason for the system to stop processing (this is a very ambiguous term). Data visualization is being done by google from IEBC servers.
So what exactly is failing?
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Shadrack Mwaniki < shadrack_mwaniki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Skunks, Pole for the delay in results. These are the kind of things that make people suspicious and not trust local ICT professionals. The public has no idea if th system is foreign or local. All they know is that 9b of their money was spent on the systems. The transactions being managed by IEBC are so small that they can be managed by a powerful desk top on any relational database. doin't even talk of concurrent submission of results because all that is need is a good queue management algorith. A separate desktop would handle the incoming traffic from polling stations As have always said, the problem is instead of providing a solution, systems are provided instead.
Regards shad
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