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  1. Re: Telkom: Let the fundraising begin (James Nzomo)


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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:21:59 +0300
From: James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Telkom: Let the fundraising begin
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Did anyone see GADO's depiction of this in today's Daily Nation?
Check it out and laughter will ensue




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2012/3/22 Joseph Maina <mainasoft00@gmail.com>

> let the sleeping dog lie....
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry, realized it after the "Undo" button already disappeared. Sorry
>> again:-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:53, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Wash,
>>>
>>> Your commenting on the wrong post.
>>> My sentiments are about the telkom kenya bailout "appeal" and not about
>>> cyber sleuthing.
>>>
>>> ./bernard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Odhiambo Washington <
>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @Bernard,
>>>>
>>>> What is not healthy about sleuths sniffing Internet traffic? It's been
>>>> happening anyway, if you ask me. No country in its true senses can leave
>>>> their cyber traffic unmonitored, lest they be caught flat-footed!
>>>> Your fears about heading back to the monopoly are simply unfounded in
>>>> this era - unless you wanna explain why you feel so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:34, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gents,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jokes aside, the unfolding events are certainly not healthy for the
>>>>> telcom industry.I fear we might be headed back to a monopoly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I definitely don't stand to gain.
>>>>>
>>>>> ./bernard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He he, @Wash and @Anthony are the greatest inciters! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other news,Orange does it again!
>>>>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate+News/Telkom+Kenya+manager+leaves+amid+push+for+Treasury+bail+out+/-/539550/1371002/-/item/0/-/eenkorz/-/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 March 2012 16:49, Antony Mwai <antonymwai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and the donation will be done through Mpesa! Just in case their
>>>>>>> network goes down as well!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Odhiambo Washington <
>>>>>>> odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or maybe, France Telecom should sell Orange Kenya to Safaricom, so
>>>>>>>> that it becomes a department within Safaricom - as in what goes around
>>>>>>>> comes around??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 16:25, Chips Funga <chips.funga@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It should be  Telkom funeral and not fundraising  ..it has
>>>>>>>>> outlived it usefulness and it should  just agree to die gracefully.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Moses Muya <mouzmuyer@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:00 PM
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] Telkom: Let the fundraising begin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Someone says ,"My Telkom lines have been out of order for months.I
>>>>>>>>> didn't notice that untill I heard they wanted 10 Billion shillings from
>>>>>>>>> us!" - need I say more? They have lost their relevance in the market!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21 March 2012 13:41, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Joram,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hasn't the govt bailed them out before, in addition to the
>>>>>>>>> concessions already? And isnt there a limit to how far you can go before
>>>>>>>>> you throw in the towel?
>>>>>>>>> Also, I'm interested on the public procurement guidelines that
>>>>>>>>> would come into play in light of the new constitution, if any.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ./bernard
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Joram Mwinamo <
>>>>>>>>> joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a clear case of underestimating the Kenyan business
>>>>>>>>> operating environment. The real behind the scenes story is like a movie.
>>>>>>>>> But Im sure the government will not let them sink. You and me will bail
>>>>>>>>> them out, it happens everywhere in the globe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:19 AM, James Kagwe <kagwejg@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  This company is suffering from internal sabotage and
>>>>>>>>> inefficiencies which are historical like that of KBC. It is only in Telekom
>>>>>>>>> / Orange where at this time and age you report an issue like one I had on
>>>>>>>>> ISDN failure and it takes more than a month to resolve. This is while very
>>>>>>>>> much aware that there are other providers in the market and that one can
>>>>>>>>> switch to another one in a twinkle of a second. By the time the service
>>>>>>>>> resumed I had already taken another provider.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 3/21/2012 9:35 AM, Moses Muya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Funny how things turn out! It's difficult to imagine Safaricom
>>>>>>>>> used to be a 'department' at Telkom and now the latter is not even the
>>>>>>>>> second but a distant third MNO in terms of subscribers and revenue! If a
>>>>>>>>> business venture does not make profits,the most reasonable thing to do is
>>>>>>>>> to end its operations and not to pour in more money hoping that the tides
>>>>>>>>> will turn!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21 March 2012 08:21, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Oh dear.. Telkom wants Sh10bn bailout from taxpayer:
>>>>>>>>> http://goo.gl/oqpOJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   ./bernard
>>>>>>>>>
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