Need I say that the Bank of Africa takes 3 days before your cash is reflected. Wouldnt recommend.
Bank of Africa Kenya has one also, Toucan Visa Card. Just load the
money in account and transact online. Little fees. Rgds
>> skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
On 4/27/11, Sam Keiru <sam.keiru@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> KCB has the least hoops and the best service. You can get an internet
> enabled debit card ... I believe cheapest to run currently! I would stay
> away from a credit-card :)
> Sam
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:05 PM, wesley kirinya
> <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks Denis,
>>
>> Is there a bank that allows online Transactions with their Debit card
>> without jumping through 1000 hoops? Can anyone share on KCB and Equity?
>>
>> O_O
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:00 PM
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>> 1. Re: iPhones secretly tracking their users? +Android too!
>> (John Gitau)
>> 2. Mick Wilson/UNEP/NBO/UNO is on mission (Mick Wilson)
>> 3. IPv6 UG (Phares Kariuki)
>> 4. Re: Visa card for Online Transaction? (Denis G. Wahome)
>> 5. Re: Visa card for Online Transaction? (Paul Kevin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:30:41 +0300
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>> >>> <BANLkTiny1iTX3LAQSt2Nt5G5G8gV3DpPdg@mail.gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=BANLkTiny1iTX3LAQSt2Nt5G5G8gV3DpPdg@mail.gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] iPhones secretly tracking their users?
>> +Android too!
>> Message-ID:
>> >>> <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>>
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>>
>> hmm...Kinuthia, I agree and sort of disagree with you on who has
>> access to the technologies. True, the biggest beneficiaries are
>> governments.
>>
>> The trick here is to figure out the motivation behind trying to
>> 'crack' the security or lack of it. Who would have imagined trying to
>> crack standard 802.xx wireless networks in the past. GSM hardware is
>> slowly becoming commoditized. You are now using gsm/umts to do
>> millions in transactions from Mpesa to ATM's....currently you can get
>> firmware for a baseband processor, FREE, you can build in your house
>> today a small gsm network for tests or whatever, for less than 1000
>> USD...my point is...don't ignore this (well you cant do much about it,
>> but have it at the back of your mind) - and if a criminal, ditch the
>> cellphone:-)....the ATM you go to is probably using GSM/UMTS:-), so is
>> your MPESA and whatever mobile money transfer you use....
>>
>> You still think there's no motivation to invest in this stuff....:-)
>>
>> JGitau
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi
>> wrote:>> kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>>
>> > On a similar note, a very interesting account of the Athens Affair, for
>> > those who maybe patient to read through. Goes to show what can be done
>> > by
>> a
>> > determined person;
>> >
>> > http://spectrum.ieee.org/telecom/security/the-athens-affair/1
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi <
>> > wrote:>> >> <adams.opiyo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=adams.opiyo@gmail.com>>
>> >>
>> >> The A5/1 crack is not a theory, it's a reality and those guys in that
>> link
>> >> demonstrated this sometime last yr. However, what was apparent was that
>> to
>> >> achieve an actual tap is a very complicated and expensive affair, so
>> much so
>> >> that to exploit it in any meaningful way would require organized
>> entities
>> >> with unlimited resources (such as government security agencies).
>> >> Infact,
>> not
>> >> far fetched conjecture
>> >> within industry circles has always suggested that all the current A5/*
>> GSM
>> >> ciphering algorithms were cracked long ago by some agencies (Mossad is
>> >> a
>> >> prime suspect), its just that it's not in the public domain.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, John Adams
>> wrote:>> >>> <jgitau@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jgitau@gmail.com>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That makes this guys theory correct...that A/51 encryption is a
>> >>> toast!....:)...this could be the next big infiltration point....
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:38 PM, John Gitau
>> wrote:>> >>>> <kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=kinuthia.ngugi@gmail.com>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> actually its not just androids and Iphones, any phone with gps can
>> >>>> 'track' you...Im not sure how much info you need but: but the US
>> >>>> several years back made it a requirement that cellphones making 911
>> >>>> calls also send their locations or have the ability to avail it, this
>> >>>> was built into the baseband processor - the specs were defined on
>> >>>> 3GPP
>> >>>> TS 04.31. the specification was called RRLP - radio resource location
>> >>>> services. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RRLP
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unfortunately for you, this communication is not authenticated. RRLP
>> >>>> is to say the least one of the most dangerously open protocols out
>> >>>> there - ?gsm (well the baseband processor) is full of them -.
>> >>>> fortunately for you, people/governments are not interested in hacking
>> >>>> gsm networks and phones yet...if you're a criminal however....just
>> >>>> use
>> >>>> that torch with a phone:-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apple and Android probably just have apps sitting on top of this, but
>> >>>> all gps enabled gsm phones are a risky affair...steve if you need
>> >>>> more
>> >>>> details on the baseband processor/gps and maybe a few papers you know
>> >>>> where to reach me..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> JGitau
>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Kinuthia Ngugi
>> wrote:>> >>>> > <dmbuvi@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=dmbuvi@gmail.com>
>> >>>> > I think if Android devices were found to be doing this it wont be
>> much
>> >>>> > of a
>> >>>> > fuss, after all android has very strong open source thus geek
>> >>>> > community
>> >>>> > roots...this is normally taken as a shameless excuse to do all
>> >>>> > sorts
>> >>>> > things
>> >>>> > and get away with it :) :)..... But iPhone doing this kind of thing
>> >>>> > after
>> >>>> > some sort of rogue update and not declaring??? Walalalala!!....
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Dennis Kioko
>> >>> >>>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> On a lighter note, Windows and RIM have come out protesting that
>> >>>> >> no
>> >>>> >> one is
>> >>>> >> bothering to find out if they are secretly tracking users. Both
>> firms
>> >>>> >> have
>> >>>> >> promised to pay anyone?who?proves that they are?secretly?tracking
>> >>>> >> users
>> >>>> >> too.
>> >>>> >> link not available
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:01:27 +0300
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>> <http://www.cio.co.ke/Main-Stories/ugandan-isps-implement-ipv6.html
>> >Through
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>> From: "Denis G. Wahome"
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>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Visa card for Online Transaction?
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>> Hey Wesley,
>>
>> Sometime back i tried to use the BBK Debit Card online but failed, the
>> bank
>> confirmed that it is not possible and was asked to apply for the credit
>> card(Barclaycard) instead.
>>
>> R
>>
>> D
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:14 PM, wesley kirinya
>> >wrote:>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>
>> > Hey Skunk...
>> >
>> > I've seen several posts on using a Visa card to do online transactions.
>> > I
>> > think KCB and Equity have been mentioned...
>> >
>> > Has anyone been successful with using a Barclays Visa Electron Debit
>> > card
>> > to make an online payment?
>> >
>> > O_o?
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:43:54 +0300
>> From: Paul Kevin
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>>
>> Seems Barclays has alot of complications.......
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Denis G. Wahome
>> wrote:>> > <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>
>>
>> > Hey Wesley,
>> >
>> > Sometime back i tried to use the BBK Debit Card online but failed, the
>> bank
>> > confirmed that it is not possible and was asked to apply for the credit
>> > card(Barclaycard) instead.
>> >
>> > R
>> >
>> > D
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:14 PM, wesley kirinya
>> >wrote:>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>> >
>> >> Hey Skunk...
>> >>
>> >> I've seen several posts on using a Visa card to do online transactions.
>> I
>> >> think KCB and Equity have been mentioned...
>> >>
>> >> Has anyone been successful with using a Barclays Visa Electron Debit
>> card
>> >> to make an online payment?
>> >>
>> >> O_o?
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