@Dennis, to be fair propreitary software companies have nothing to with the filth and pillaging that other so called platforms have done. I can understand the hippie culture and freedoms, but the rape of the software industry under the disguise of freedoms by deceiviing young software developers into thinking anti-capitalistic and anti-corporate view and then not only preventing sharing but pracising the same principles of commerce that are common to propreitary is the most pathectic of the order of greed. Don't take my word for it, look deeper. I'd write code anyday on M$ & MAC and if it made money, well ang good. Am actually quite happy that the discussion took place, now it is time for other develoeprs to face up to what they should have known a long time ago, i.e. if they are developers at all in the first place and not code thieves in that context of the discussion. Well done to all the frameworks and languages out there, you have given choices that are welcome to this industry.