| have also been a Mandriva user for a few years on and off. I finally became fa full fledged user when i read about a certain windows worm taht used key loggers and had ammassed a lot of data from infected machines including passwords, IM usernames & passwords, Credit card numbers, chat conversations-- basicalluy everything that a user had typed.

I think Mandriva biggest disadavantage is that it targets newbies too much . I also think ubuntu is going that way too. I am avaoiding fedora since its server geared, while i am targeting a desktop installation.

The big problem again with beginner installations is that some problems tend to have too much noise when you try to source for a solution, i.e  too many people ask the same question and very few are answered, in short, google will not sort you out.

As for the distros that are more into the terminal and configuration side, I am too lazy for them, and I wouldnt want to waste a lot of time setting things up.

so i was looking for a distro that is more power user oriented, such that its pre configured from a developer/power user point of view (not a beginner who has to be given a distro where the mplayer codecs are already put into it).

So I have decided to change from mandriva to suse. I have used Mandriva fromm 2006.0 to 2009.0 . I will donate my discs to other beginners, who i hope will enjoy their experience.

2009/6/8 Ashford Maina <kuriashford@gmail.com>
Hi Dennis,

B4 i comment let me first admit that many call me a Mandriva damu, but i have and do change distros once in a while.
{start here} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux

Installing L.A.M.P on Mandriva/Fedora/Cent-OS/Ubuntu/e.t.c..e.t.c  is easy given that you have all the necessary dependencies and environment setup, Changing the distro will not solve your problem i beleive you should first fix the problem b4 switching distros, coz their are over 50 names and about 7 package bases or main streams. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions

Quick Guide for installing stuff
Packages, Documentation and assistance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions

Obviously without argument Ubuntu wins here, their seems to be a deb file for everything open source. they are easy to install and best of all ubuntu forums seem to have answeres to every beginners and rainy day question you encounter if you have a problem and your not winning online just remove you distro name from the search string and you will most definitely find your self at ubuntu or its namesakes.

will not judge BSD or others {havent used them} but in second place i would prefer RPM based this are redhat, fedora, mandriva e.t.c. Many a time you find software for linux they most always have a tutorial for Redhat/Fedora how to instalation and configuration, {will accept nowadays ubuntu and Suse are catching up}, Lastly, i may be wrong but i will put suse in this list as it supports RPM's

Most important question am i an expert on Linux? answer is NO, I just like thing that work right out of the box.

Mandrake, last i heard was 10 back in 2005, if that is what you are running no wonder Lamp was so much stress,


Ashford K. Maina,



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2009/6/8 David Ndambuki <damundx@gmail.com>

>From personal experience, I would advise you use Linux Mint. It's deb based and a direct ubuntu derivative. It's tailor made for the desktop user but you can add a few servers for practice until you are comfortable enough (with the shell) for Slackware (McLean). The reason I would advise for Mint: They seem to tweek it enough so that it runs on as much hardware as possible, codecs are set and you can just discover the system at your own pace.

Believe me when I tell you I learnt how to recompile the kernel, the meaning of RTFM, etc etc, all on Slackware (FL - sic) before I could even pipe output from commands, and all this so that I can have my soundcard working well. Sometimes I look back and I think I didn't have to do all that. You can run a virtual machine and do shell commands on Mint. You still have TTY's to log in to, it's still the same system and the kernel is the same.

But I'f you need servers, other than Solaris, I'd advice for RPM systems esp RedHat/Centos/Fedora.

Thing is you are still growing into these systems. Some make you do it faster than others. Like for example I have to give Mint some newfound respect bcoz I've come to see that I can finally read PDF's from CLI using /dev/fb0. The last time I used /dev/fb0 was just to watch a movies (that waas on slack)... reason, I didn't have enough documentation and manuals to help reason out how to do it. Now if I'm stuck with a broken gui, I can still read my books(pdf's), watch movies etc, because it's [almost] the same procedure on all systems.

It has a smooth "learning" curve, freeing up your time to do other stuff. My 2 cents.

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