What many people forget is that the iPhone is not a phone, it is a lifestyle. The Android can run mySQL or whatever other clichè is in fashion but it will never have the appeal of the iPhone. The iPhone is going nowhere. You forgot to say that the iPhone has like 100k application it runs which the Android does not. But no one says the Android is doomed. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2009, at 09:48, Josiah Mugambi <jmugambi@gmail.com> wrote:
@ chucks ... now that i'd like to hack on the android... :) -- Josiah Mugambi Ogden Nash - "The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat."
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com
wrote: I have a friend who bought the google adriod, damn he even installed mysql and it even has compiz. N97 and iphones are all going to hell.
Just some thoughts
./Chuks
On 12/15/09, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com> wrote:
I wouldnt underestimate Apple just yet. Apple release game changers and their ecosystem has been systematically growing and so has their following.Microsoft is a behemoth, many times the size of either google or apple. their strategy is to dominate by appealing to the masses and using their size to influence governments and large corporations. And locking people in through what can sometimes be termed unfair practises. Apple have until recently appealed to elitists and even the iphone is only a mass market product in the US. Its still somehow a premium product. And their profitability is massive.
I rarely see the 3 players as direct competitors coz their offerings are different, they just do it on similar platforms. I think the battle is in the minds of the press and us but each company has a very clear strategy for survival and winning
If it was a race?Id put my bet on apple winning in the long run, maybe im also obsessed with Jobs and Ive?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Okechuckwu, I am obsessed with the goings on in my field. And so are the many others who author the links I post. They too are obsessed with things they're passionate about.
Isn't that what life is all about? I'll take the reality of passion over the myth of logic... any day of the week.
Saidi
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
@Saidi - I think you are too obsessed with google to argue logically on anything else, you need to try and see from all perspectives.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:13 AM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> wrote:
And now this: http://goo.gl/ The juggernaut keeps on rolling. Saidi
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:54 PM, saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com
wrote:
Aside from the excitement of a new smartphone, does it worry
you that one
company is "all over the place"?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Gichingiri Kuria < gmail@gichingiri.com> wrote: > > I don't think thats a denial, actually very close to admiting it > > > 2009/12/14 saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> >> >> That's what they all say ;) >> Apple denied the iPhone... until they announced it. >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Gichingiri Kuria < gmail@gichingiri.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/12/android-dogfood-diet-for-holidays.h... >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/12/14 saidimu apale <saidimu@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> No other company with maybe the exception of Microsoft has >>>>> changed >>>>> the computing landscape the way Apple has, Google does not even come close. >>>>> >>>>> There is a big difference with having potential and being there. >>>>> Apple is there, and Google has potential. And that's all. >>>> >>>> Interesting comment. You seem to imply that it's not even a battle at >>>> all. Google it and you'll find that quite a number think it's a battle of >>>> the titans. Question is: why is Microsoft missing in action? What tricks >>>> does Steve Ballmer (or whoever succeeds him once the board fires him) have >>>> up his sleeve? >>>> Google's focus isn't really search, it is advertising. They're >>>> just >>>> good at leveraging search to increase their ad revenue. There's a lot about >>>> Google's practices that I don't like, privacy being top of the list. I am, >>>> however, a fan of some of their core technology (I've posted >>>> before about >>>> Peter Norvig's talks on big data and big possibilities). >>>> Question: what other tech company has successfully implemented an >>>> ad-supported freemium model on a scale as large as Google's? >>>> - Email: remember how much space Hotmail and Yahoo used to give users >>>> before Gmail upped the game? >>>> - Maps: remember how crappy Mapquest was before Google Maps came in? >>>> And that's even before you consider StreetView. >>>> - Maps: anything remotely resembling Google Earth, at that cost? >>>> - GPS navigation: turn-by-turn for free? >>>> - Research: online search was mostly considered a "done deal" by the >>>> major contenders (Yahoo, Inktomi, etc etc) before Google upended everything >>>> with a radically new system (which also included image search) >>>> - Data-mining: the standard wisdom relied on a small corpus of >>>> text to >>>> build complex, and hopefully complete, models on. Peter Norvig advocates >>>> huge corpuses and largely dispenses with complex/complete models (whether in >>>> translation, spell-check, entity-recognition etc). >>>> - Photos: anything remotely resembling Picasa, for the price and >>>> features? >>>> This isn't really about Google, but rather about the success of a very >>>> different business model on a humongous scale. Unfortunately, we don't seem >>>> to realize the privacy implications to the consumer.... until it's too late. >>>> Previously, most of these apps would have cost you dollars. Now they >>>> cost advertisers dollars and you don't pay any cash. Of course, >>>> you pay in >>>> other ways (the information you give, the loss of privacy etc >>>> etc). The >>>> bigger worry is in a single player having sizeable influence in such a >>>> wide-spectrum of technological life. For now Google may be a benevolent >>>> monopoly, but for how long? >>>> Saidi >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Philip Musyoki < pmusyoki@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It is also wrong to say Apple has lesser leverage than Google. I >>>>> think Apple far has more clout that Google, stretching for >>>>> desktop computers >>>>> to laptops, iTunes, iPod and the iPhone. >>>>> >>>>> Google is king in search, and that is not disputed, but Apple is king >>>>> in desktops, laptops, operating systems, iTunes, iPod and the iPhone and >>>>> Google is the one playing catch up right now. No other company with maybe >>>>> the exception of Microsoft has changed the computing landscape >>>>> the way Apple >>>>> has, Google does not even come close. >>>>> >>>>> There is a big difference with having potential and being there. >>>>> Apple is there, and Google has potential. 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