Areba I totally agree with you. KPLC should install upstream meters for domestic generators. I believe there is a sizable number of Kenyans who can afford solar panels and or wind turbines which can be supplying the grid with any supplus. If a million domestic users did this I bet it would make a more significant difference than the said energy saving bulbs. In fact the money used to buy the bulbs could be used to subsidize solar panels and other related equipment.

About the wind turbines; I saw some called vertical axis turbines. They are less noisy and can run even in slow winds. Very ideal for residential areas.



On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
They vary and depending on make, model and  how much you are willing
to cough out, anywhere from 8db to about 60.

On 8/5/09, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
> If @ neighbour has one in Buruburu for example - how much noise is that?
>
> //\\
>
>
> 2009/8/5 Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>
>
>> Domestic gen sets less than 10kva are no more noisy than a small car,
>> plus you just dont know how wide an array of liquids you can run them
>> on exists, including beer!  Sorry guys, that stuff is meant to be
>> drank by cars too.
>>
>> On 8/5/09, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Generator - utapatana na Michuki
>> >                  - Noise?
>> >                  - Environment-wise?
>> >
>> > BR,
>> >
>> > Thuo Wilson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2009/8/5 Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com>
>> >
>> >> The solutions are with us, i feel you guys about holding government
>> >> accountable but anyone that proposes energy saving bulbs as a measure
>> >> to mitigate shortages falls in my very bad group. The kind that in the
>> >> face of shortage try to consume less instead of produce more. Trust
>> >> me, they have no plans for el nino which could very well damage the
>> >> dams. Way i see it, solution is distributed generation, set up your
>> >> own power stations, for those living in estates, cost share and get
>> >> some neat equipment that will power your stuff. For manufacturing
>> >> industry paying over 1 million a month, get diesel generators. (trust
>> >> me its cheaper). Then there is micro tri generation, use a diesel
>> >> generator for elec, its exhaust for steam and youll be surprised how
>> >> much energy you can save.
>> >>
>> >> On 8/5/09, JEREMIAH CHUNGE <jayrehmc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Infact if you can get inverters+batteries then also install solar
>> >> > panels to be charging the batteries when the weather is favourable
>> >> > and
>> >> > main grid elelectricity is out, u'll be a happy guy bila running
>> >> > expenses of a generator...therefore, u wont need to worry about ur
>> >> > batteries running out.. but ensure equipments not in use r powered
>> >> > off
>> >> > accordingly...
>> >> >
>> >> > Either way, if required esp. for heavy consumers, generators might
>> >> > still be handy with an autostart/stop function. Some have even got an
>> >> > automatic fuel replenishment facility and / or automatic oil
>> >> > lubrication device. If output required is single phase or 3 phase,
>> >> > some have a changeover switch so that u regulate the output u desire.
>> >> >
>> >> > Before i publish an article here...analyze ur needs / requirements
>> >> > vis-a-vis products specifications available and be a happy chap!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Best Rgds
>> >> >
>> >> > Jeremy
>> >> >
>> >> > On 8/5/09, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Good thing with that is your inverter charger acts as your 'default
>> >> >> gateway' then all people on the output end never experience a black
>> >> >> out, and to increase back up duration all you need to do is add more
>> >> >> cells to the battery banks.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 8/5/09, Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Here is the more expensive option for a fully working office.
>> >> >>> 10 x 200ah 12v deep cycle batteries at 24k each.
>> >> >>> 1 x 3kva outback inverter charger for about 200k.
>> >> >>> With this, energy savers, non crt monitors you can power a 20pc
>> office
>> >> >>> continously even on a 2 day blackout. Plus the beauty is when you
>> >> >>> choose to get a generator, just plug it in .
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/5/09, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Have they specified which dates are going down on their website or
>> >> >>>> any
>> >> >>>> website? Eg which parts and which dates?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ./Chuks
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 8/5/09, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> I was looking for a solar powered laptop adapter, for a prolonged
>> >> >>>>> off
>> >> >>>>> grid
>> >> >>>>> expedition, skunk Thea Maina advised me thus:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> *call ongi 0722222727 mention my name {i.e. thea maina :-} for a
>> >> >>>>> discount*
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Phares Kariuki <
>> pkariuki@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Inverters are the best option. You can get Xantrex inverters (a
>> bit
>> >> >>>>>> pricey), along with some batteries, and you will have an almost
>> >> >>>>>> uninterrupted power supply.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Thanks
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Riyaz Bachani <
>> >> >>>>>> riyaz.bachani@ke.wananchi.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> A lot of people are installing inverters - that charge
>> batteries,
>> >> and
>> >> >>>>>>> provide output for a few lights etc. Should work for laptop.
>> >> >>>>>>> 4-6
>> >> >>>>>>> hours.
>> >> >>>>>>> Check with Kenital, Chloride etc
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>>>>>> From: "Kevin Ouma" <kevin.ouma@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>>>> To: "skunkworks" <skunkworks@my.co.ke>
>> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 12:18:31 PM GMT +03:00 Iraq
>> >> >>>>>>> Subject: [Skunkworks] Power Alernatives
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> With the current power rationing, what power options are there
>> for
>> >> >>>>>>> someone
>> >> >>>>>>> working from home ( to power a laptop). apart from a generator
>> >> >>>>>>> ?
>> >> >>>>>>> For instance is there a DC to AC convertor that can be linked
>> >> >>>>>>> to
>> a
>> >> >>>>>>> car
>> >> >>>>>>> battery ?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Speaking of which I do suspect that as of today someone
>> somewhere
>> >> has
>> >> >>>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>>> container full of generators docking at the Mombasa Port.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Kevin
>> >> >>>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
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>> >> >>> Collins Areba Omwoyo
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>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
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