On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com> wrote:

Am with u there, Chris. In fact, am lookin for that hiren boot cd.
Havent used it in a long time. All am saying is livecds aside, its
easier to reset linux passwd. Not always, maybe. And yeah, before
vista and the hidden admin account, many xp machines ran/run with
passwdless admin account.

In the end, though, as they say, the secure ones have not yet been born.
And am no authority on security matters. At all:)

On 8/25/09, Chris W. <dabnix@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/8/25 Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com>
>
>> Technically speaking, its easier to hack into a linux box with
>> physical access to the machine. Hdd and bios passwd are os
>> independent.
>
>
> Easy?Not really...with technical ideas, somehow possible.
> Think of Win XP and the blank Administrator password after a default
> install.Has been
> like that for long till lately - boot in safe mode and you have the whole
> house to yourself!
> Armed with the right cds and know-how, you will get into a win computer
> within minutes.
> Just google around.Bios and Hardware based passwords still retain their
> capability to limit
> any common reboot intruder when carefully specified.
>
> Guyz in security can add up to this.
>
> Chris_w.
> dabnix@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On 8/25/09, Chris W. <dabnix@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Areba Collins
>> > <arebacollins@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> After reading this thread,
>> >>
>> >> <shudder>
>> >> linux is no more secure than whine-dows at the default install.
>> >> </shudder>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Areba,
>> >
>> > That's a very wrong conclusion.
>> > The issues under this thread assumed that the 'intruder' has physical
>> access
>> > to system to the point of rebooting it.
>> >
>> > Your statement above simply implies that a person carrying a Gun is no
>> more
>> > secure than a person carrying a Rungu
>> > just because all of them can be snatched away.Quite a wrong assumption
>> here.
>> >
>> > Chris_w.
>> > dabnix@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 8/24/09, Chris W. <dabnix@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Yeah!! @ Lawi but that's why there exists Boot Loader Passwords (like
>> >> Grub
>> >> > passwords) and Computer BIOS passwords.
>> >> >
>> >> > Use them for maximum security.Without them anyone can access any *NIX
>> >> > Systems (Windows too) provided they can reboot it!!!Max it further by
>> >> > encrypting the data just in case somebody snatched the drive(s)
>> >> > .Donno how many around have time for all these...
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris_w.
>> >> > dabnix@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009/8/24 Alex Ngatia <alex.ngatia@gmail.com>
>> >> >
>> >> >> @Motobaridi's solution, doesn't it mean that you can access any *nix
>> >> >> machine that boots "normally" as long as you have physical access to
>> >> >> it?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2009/8/24 Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi@gmail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Motobaridi's option works all the time. Well, almost all. Had a
>> >> >>> problem with a machine with pam authentication and the pam was
>> broken.
>> >> >>> Dependency problem ... it was not funny
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 8/24/09, George Njoroge <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > Hey go with motobaridi option, I always use it to recover/reset
>> root
>> >> >>> passwd
>> >> >>> > for my client servers (ie if I had forgotten them).
>> >> >>> > Though smt else not mentioned here,u had said u even forgot ur
>> >> >>> > username.
>> >> >>> Ok
>> >> >>> > easy once in root you can just list home directory and u shall
>> >> >>> > see
>> >> the
>> >> >>> users
>> >> >>> > ie ls /home/ . There you shall see the users. Reset all as you
>> >> >>> > see
>> >> fit.
>> >> >>> But
>> >> >>> > as warned remember you are full root.
>> >> >>> > Cram this trick as it will save and come in handy when you
>> >> >>> > administer
>> >> >>> all
>> >> >>> > servers.
>> >> >>> > Cheerz
>> >> >>> > Themburu
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > 2009/8/24 Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, MotoBaridi <
>> motobaridi@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>> 1: Turn your computer on.
>> >> >>> >>> 2. Press ESC at the grub prompt.
>> >> >>> >>> 3. Press e for edit.
>> >> >>> >>> 4. Highlight the line that begins kernel ........., press e
>> >> >>> >>> 5. Go to the very end of the line, add rw init=/bin/bash
>> >> >>> >>> 6. press enter, then press b to boot your system.
>> >> >>> >>> 7. Your system will boot up to a passwordless root shell.*
>> >> >>> >>> *CAUTION: This is a FULL ROOT SHELL! You can damage your system
>> if
>> >> >>> >>> not
>> >> >>> >>> careful!
>> >> >>> >>> 8. Type in passwd <username>. Set your password.
>> >> >>> >>> 9. Type in reboot.
>> >> >>> >>> MOST IMPORTANTLY
>> >> >>> >>> 10. Try not to forget your password again
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> So long, but more like what we have on *BSD.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> --
>> >> >>> >> Best regards,
>> >> >>> >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>> >> >>> >> Nairobi,KE
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