@John Gitau, I've just gone over the info you posted and am very grateful for your contribution. To be honest, I've be down the road of hosted hardware and the rest. Back in the early days, these were the only options. I've build systems blah blah etc but none of these fancy me anymore for years now, however you have a good idea on the hosted router thing. Hope you will have success with it. For me building apps for ccies will mean building a long drawn out application that could last a long time and am try to avoid any apps that slow me down at this stage. I'm going to pick one of two apps out of my projects that will be long projects. I'm sort of a little disappointed with our network collegues who have not responded to this thread. To me the reason I put out this thread was to create an invitation I hoped for bringing together our network collegues who I believe have been left out of the development cycle because these layers have a lot of limitations. I had hoped they would have jumped on-board this project by even supplying the simplest of IOS commands. I was even willing to provide such credits of contributors, reference my original thread.  I have access to equipment when I need to, I can run my IOS commands or re-read Cisco material so why did I even bother listing this thread? I'm asking myself this question right now and the only answer I have is this : To h*ll with listing threads and such invitations any more. I'm going to e- flush this useless and time wasting app straight to the trash! So much for even trying...geez. Amazing.
 
Anyway, cheers and I'll keep intouch if some idea crops up later of some network app and if may interest you, maybe we can do something. :-)
 
Rgds.
 
 
 
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM, John Gitau <jgitau@gmail.com> wrote:
Aki,
Most of the guys are right, there are simulators for this sort of
thing all over the place. What we could maybe work on is actual
hardware community lab. Not necessarily cisco, guys could for instance
pledge/donate whatever they can get and we put up the lab.

A couple of old 2600/6500's etc forgotten in a closet by established
ISP's would go along way. Most of them don't have policies to dispose
off old equipment but Im sure through such a forum we can get lots of
gear to work with. rackspace/power, session management and other
considerations would also have to be made.