lol Gichuki, I'm puzzled Why would a 1337 argue that logical controlls would be an adequate barrier when all physical security is compromised? Anyways, i see no end to this debate. Take whatever precautions you see fit for your portables, i'll stick to mine [?] One last thing tho, when you get time, kindly share a link to these "tiny covert GPS tracker devices" that can at least sent a text with lat & long and be fitted discreetly inside a laptop chassis. I'd like to know whether i've missed something concerning those _______________________________________________ *Without requirements or design, programming is the art of adding bugs to an empty text file.* _______________________________________________ * * 2012/6/17 Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com>
There are very small transponders size of USB stick, i cant remember there names. There also some little GPS covert tracker devices, price range of 299 USD to 500 USD.
Using software for tracking laptops is not security advised (This should be done for organizations that are open even to their competitors), especially when working with a sensitive environment, security 101.
Best advice,
1) Backup your data always, off the laptop. Protect the storage. 2) Lock your HDD on BIOS level, pretty easy 3) Encrypt your whole Device 4) Don't store your passwords on the browser 5) Sensitive document should always be password protected or encrypted
Saying that you let the thief get all the way to boot, man, thats a horrible option, some of these guys know how to remove software. What if the box is booted up in Mogadishu, will send KDF to pick it up?
Kindly,
./Chucks
On 6/17/12, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
By the way Bwana Chuks, as long as impunity or physical access is gained to a machine, it's disclosure time for sensitive data!
Allowing or denying booting on a lost machine will make very little difference to a jambazi that really wants access to millions worth of company data.
HDD huenda ikachujwa (bila matata) na kukaguliwa kwingine.
About transponders, try opening your lappy and check whether there's enough room for a decent HW tracker. (by decent, i mean one that can acquire conclusive location data and submit it to you in NBO even if it ends up in Mandera)
NB: anyone/org crazy enuf to store sensitive nfo (worth millions) on any portable machine is in serious need of an overhaul to their security policies (and 1000 cans of whoop ass unleased on them)
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2012/6/16 Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com>
Data cost millions to companies, a laptop is cheaper than that.
A boot up of a box gets its naked even when you have an encrypted partition, this is coz its a partition of one full device, and thats where the vulnerability comes to.
If you want to track something, use hardware, like a transponder can do a great job, even in a remote area with no maps.
On 6/16/12, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
Allowing a boot up doesn't guarantee unwanted data access. Disks can be partitioned. Partitions & Dirs with sensitive data can be encrypted. Decent tracking SW allows you to nuke your data remotely
I don't know about you but to the rest of us common folk, a lappy is an asset that cost real heard earned bling and effort to acquire. I would think it wise to do everything within one's means to reacquire a lost machine
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2012/6/16 Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com>
@James, i cant let u access my laptop just like that. Its better to have a backup of your work on an encrypted hdd, if the laptop goes, i say bye bye, get a new one, load my work up.
Letting the laptop boot coz you want to track it, its a bigger risk to data, dont advice people that.
On 6/16/12, James Nzomo <kazikubwa@gmail.com> wrote:
@Chuksjonia Letting a laptop boot the OS sans boot passwords will allow a stolen machine to run prey or some other tracking SW (if it hasn't been formatted already)
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