People there are no arguments here just a lively discussion. Its never that serious. In my opinion the fluctuations affect every industry but the power industry seems to inflate the effect too much. I think a live calculator on the site to show how many units I expect for a given amount of money and a comprehensive breakdown would alleviate most of our woes. 


On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
When the meters we being installed, they were sharing a booklet
showing how the calculation was being done. It even went further to
show a comparison with postpaid.

After I got to understand this my cost has been consistent since Feb
last year or there about. Makes sense somehow.

On 2/7/14, Kennedy Aseda <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ambrose,
> Or another option would be for Kenya Power to provide an SMS or Web System
> where you can query how much it would cost to get X units for a specific
> meter number. That, I think is very easy for them to provide - if they are
> interested/bothered enough
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Kennedy Aseda <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ambrose,
>> I dint mean to get into an argument, and neither am I a Kenya Power
>> employee. I am just using my own understanding of the current situation,
>> sharing how to handle the situation and also my little knowledge of
>> tariffs
>> and power systems dynamics in the country.
>>
>> If you read my previous post, maybe we need another player - but as it
>> stands, there are many dynamics especially with KenGen, Independent power
>> producers, etc that needs to be fixed.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:05 PM, ambrose kimaiyo
>> <mail2ambrose@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Kennedy,
>>>
>>> That knowing which we do not know is what we are trying to get. By KPLC
>>> giving us the monthly formula. Some rogue employee or admin could adjust
>>> the system and make millions in a day. Someone mentioned the ERC rates,
>>> atleast when you go to a filling station you know with this amount I
>>> will
>>> get this litres of fuel or kerosene. You get the point. What is so hard
>>> for
>>> KPLC doing the same?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Kennedy Aseda <samskid5@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jimmy,
>>>> I dont know how you will do it, but for me I somehow get the same units
>>>> every month (+/- 10 units) for the same KES budget.
>>>>
>>>> But still, maybe Kenya Power (and its partners) needs to reduce
>>>> dependence on diesel generators for the grid and we also ensure other
>>>> factors (outside control of Kenya Power - like exchange rates) remain
>>>> constant.
>>>>
>>>> Or we open up the market and let alternative power distributors set up
>>>> systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kennedy
>>>>> Thats one of our problems,  if I establish that I require 150 units
>>>>> per
>>>>> month, how do I determine the amount of money needed to buy those
>>>>> units?
>>>>> That's why we need the formula.
>>>>> On 7 Feb 2014 18:03, "Kennedy Aseda" <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My advise:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Buy what you need - number of units needed per month
>>>>>>    2. Dont buy wholesale - dont buy units for 10k at a go when you
>>>>>>    need 3k per month (you will spend most of your money buying at over
>>>>>> 12bob
>>>>>>    per unit)
>>>>>>    3. Dont buy per day - budget for your whole month
>>>>>>    4. Standing charge is meant to be charged every month - even when
>>>>>>    you still have units. Thus if you buy once for multiple months, it
>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>    deducted in your next purchase for each month you dint buy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, power rates always fluctuate in Kenya based on exchange
>>>>>> rates, the diesel generators used to supplement the grid, and many
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> factors. Maybe we need all these to be standardized
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I dont think the issue is Prepaid tokens, am on postpaid bill and my
>>>>>>> Jan bill has doubled i have been paying 2K and 25XX when on higher
>>>>>>> side, my
>>>>>>> Jan bill is 4,333.04..! and FYI i have not added any electrical
>>>>>>> equipment
>>>>>>> in my house.!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kplctokenformula just tweeted on tht
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>> Wilson./
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7 February 2014 12:38, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think #kplctokenformula would work. Can we get more suggestions
>>>>>>>>> then we can start it off.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Jimmy Thuo
>>>>>>>>> <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My hashtag suggestions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #DiscloseKPLCTokenFormula
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #WeWantKPLCPrepaidFormula
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> #KPLCTokenFormula
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had raised the issue with Cofek but it landed on deaf ears.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Alex Gabriel <
>>>>>>>>>> alexgabbie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr.Ambrose I totally support you..tweeter is the way to go?Let
>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>> make it a trending topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who wants to take full leadership and come up with a harsh
>>>>>>>>>>> tag?By
>>>>>>>>>>> all means there is definitely a huge number of Kenyan's who would
>>>>>>>>>>> love to
>>>>>>>>>>> get the monthly calculation formula.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Gabriel
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, ambrose kimaiyo <
>>>>>>>>>>> mail2ambrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets take this issue to twitter, I am sure there are many more
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenyans in need of answers to similar question. Lets petition
>>>>>>>>>>>> kplc to
>>>>>>>>>>>> publish their monthly formula.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Alex Gabriel <
>>>>>>>>>>>> alexgabbie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I totally agree with you Jimmy....Just as the the fuel prices
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes are published/announced every mid month as is with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trend...KPLC should also be publishing/announcing the estimated
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual units one should expect whenever clients are buying the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tokes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex Gabriel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jimmy Thuo <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To me the whole system is suspect. There is something fishy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about it. This formula should not be a secret if at all it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> genuine. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should actually be able to calculate how many units I want and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exactly that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:56 AM, ambrose kimaiyo <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail2ambrose@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The prepaid system is a good idea but we need to know how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> units are allocated. The entire formula should be published
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every month as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they keep changing based on the exchange rates and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> factors. They need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Thuo Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lixton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its never the same. High time they provided a portal where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can get their matrixes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What they provide when installing is vague.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson./
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 February 2014 11:39, Mark Mwangi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mwangy@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Hey  all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am rather confused by the rates used by Kenya Power for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issuing power units. 2000 /- does not get you a consistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no. of units yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exchange rate is rather stable. Just this morning 2,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bob got me 117
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> units which lasts about 12 days at 10 units a day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How much do listers get? Is it consistent?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also think they have zones with Westlands paying way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than Eastlands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> markmwangi.me.ke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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