Wow @Claire, kudos to you. That is quite admirable actually. I also hope that after you are done you can mentor another one and another one who feels like giving up on CS because it seems too daunting or the lectures are a raw deal. On university staffing, I am trying to say that though most people here have come this far due to God&#39;s grace (and pure grit), it doesnt have to be that way. Not every one is Chuck Norris or McGyver you know :) . One way or another, we will need to produce a lot more superb programmers, systems analysts, ai experts, dba&#39;s etc for a young economy as ours. Self-drive and initiative will work for us as individuals but the big picture demands we do more for the sake of others as well.<br clear="all">

<div>--<br>Ndungi Kyalo<br></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 February 2013 15:04, Clare N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:101stylz@gmail.com" target="_blank">101stylz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<p>@Ndungi I only say this coz 4 years ago I was that ms-word student but I have self taught myself EVERY language n tech skill I know.<br>
Whether or not u lyk ur course, its up to you to figure stuff out...<br>
Instead of waiting for a miracle, go out and make one.</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 26, 2013 2:55 PM, &quot;Ndungi Kyalo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:ndungi@gmail.com" target="_blank">ndungi@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


@Clare, It is wrong to first assume that a young person lacks initiative or self-drive. In the first place, he came to the university because he figured he couldnt hack it by himself. That is some form of initiative right there that any lecturer could work with to mould the young mind into a great skunker/ette. Of course, there are those who are simply fulfilling their parents&#39; wishes to complete a 4-year &#39;marketable&#39; course, but i think those are the minority. Many more enthusiastic young people get into class only to be met by lecturers who recycle class notes and do not have an idea what new technologies are driving the world outside that class. <br>




<br>Our real problem I think is staffing. How I wish Comp Sc lecturers were sourced directly from this forum! <br><br>Or perhaps, what the students need is mentoring ?<br><br clear="all"><div>--<br>Ndungi Kyalo<br></div>



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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 February 2013 11:11, Clare N <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:101stylz@gmail.com" target="_blank">101stylz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




<p>+1 Nick. Some students come with basic MS-word knowledge only.</p>
<p>But miaka nne pia ni mob sana not to have caught up.<br>
Zero ambition/self-drive.<br>
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