On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM, John Doe <
fivepings@gmail.com> wrote:
> So how did/does this saga end?
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Samuel Wachira <
wachirasam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Haha.
>>
>> ./Sam
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Bernard Mwagiru <
bmwagiru@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hitler is "mortified" :
http://youtu.be/HxPfgUvfPHA
>>> ./bernard
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Michelle Shivu <
shivumich89@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> google will always try do everything....c ..now they r bingin' next
>>>> ?%^@^
>>>> leaves me wondering
>>>>
>>>> On 15 January 2012 13:35, aki <
aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Some thots from me. I'm not a sales/marketing person... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the problem is not Mocaility's data because this data is
>>>>> already published in the public domain therefore it is open to any data
>>>>> mining of sorts without the need for any consent from Mocality or for that
>>>>> matter anyone else who publlishes their data on the internet for public use.
>>>>> The matter of copyright data comes in when the data is used say in
>>>>> distribution purposes. Sales and marketing teams world wide use such
>>>>> databases for cold calling etc, the equivalent comparison is a marketing
>>>>> person going through yellow pages to create the markets for themselves.
>>>>> There is no crime in this, and neither is scraping of already public data.
>>>>> Infact it's the companies that are listed in public data that get the
>>>>> exposure from such marketing stand to benefit. Mocality owns that data and
>>>>> its formats but cannot limit anyone on its free use as its a directory
>>>>> service. If Mocality directory services was username/password protected and
>>>>> Google people broke into protected data then it would be a case of data
>>>>> hacking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've dealt with scraping in the early days when I installed the
>>>>> computers site that I maintain, and simply blocked ip addresses that I
>>>>> suspected of such activity. Not because they were doing the wrong thing as
>>>>> the site already was public but were creating unnecessary huge traffic to
>>>>> the site that did not fall under the site's program. Reverse Engineering
>>>>> comes in many forms... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem Mocality have with Google people is that these people
>>>>> used Mocality's company name to create the illusion of a partnership or
>>>>> representation, without the consent of the Mocality. This is very close to
>>>>> corporate identity theft and borders near fraud. I don't see why the Google
>>>>> people did not tell the client's that they were cold calling etc and thus
>>>>> did not have to use Mocality's name which makes no difference to the
>>>>> marketing people. Infact Google holds a better brand name than Mocality in
>>>>> many ways. I also don't understand why should any business client ask a
>>>>> caller how they got the contact when they are publicly listed whether on the
>>>>> internet directory service, yellow pages etc. After all, the business client
>>>>> can say no to any business proposals and if they feel they need privacy,
>>>>> they should not be listed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Was some from from within Mocality involved in the use of Google's name
>>>>> for the web project? There is a lot that does not make any sense at the
>>>>> moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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