@Steve, I'll share my final thots on the thread.
As you are also out there, those of us who have been out there worked through winters or summers etc know where home is and what's wrong with it. Those of us who have travelled on undergrounds and bullet trains know. We are seriously lagging behind by generations. To make things worse, all this Open Source free-bee ness is going to turn even aspiring developers/programmers into "dumb zombies". Unfortunately there is no solution to this culture of making money from free-bee ness. Skills, huh what skills? What, installing ISO files and repository updates are skills or googling scripts to work?
KE programmers and developers have a much better success rate at what they do than others out there. Try asking some Mac Donald's staff of their educational background and you will wonder at the level of competitiveness out there. Degrees, well so what, almost everyone has them.
Open Source is a big set back to us and slowly taking most down with it. If we were to really embrace Open Source and make it ours, then the fight for turf would be very vicious and most competitive. But I guess this will never happen.....
Anyway, not to be too spammy, I hope to setup a serious C# programming evening classes etc in about 2 - 3 years time, for aspiring ones to master ( yes master, not the crappy ones found following some books syllabus or cbt or dvd nonsense etc ) and something for the best of the best. Until we do this, we are going no where. And yes, if any student is found with copy paste skills, the door will be shown to them. Hopefully there will be a place for such. :-)
Best Rgds and signout.
me thots....