Where are the mods, kelele mingi sana.Let people pay what they want to pay for. I think it would be a rip off if guys were paying what mike quoted, and I.T is not like other studies whereby ukimaliza a degree or a master, people learn everyday as some1 stated.So please end this fruitless thread On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>wrote:
@ Daniel
Pleased to meet you too! Google.co.ke reveals you are one of the EPROM geeks! Could not find your blog (Twitter?) however! Will be following you and other mobile developers who can communicate sense to not too technical but interested parties such as as myself.
@ Mwo and Co. (Jess, Mithamo, Wakahe and Conrad - Darth Vad .. et al) keep up the good work. Are gate crashers with 500 bob welcome for an hour or two - maybe tomorrow afternoon? Dress code? Yuppie - Funky? Or ....
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Daniel Mugambi <danielmugambi@gmail.com>wrote:
@Mike I think you are in the wrong profession. Any serious developer will tell you that 99% of what they know is self taught. Its all about the passion! Plus i think you are nuts asking Conrad to lay bare his CV. Some of us have benefited greatly from his initiatives at Africa.NET. Jessica is doing a great job. Such stuff wasnt there when i started out.
Mugambi
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
ha ha! my friend, I do not feel obliged in the least to prove myself to you and your library system. let any serious professional or pair of students contact me for the sponsorship.
On 7/8/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Mike there
i think we should let people feel free to choose what they want to learn or not at whatever cost they want. You may not belief this but the course is important to some people. Talking disparagingly about what other people have put so much effort to bring to bare sound elitist, and I know you don't like class and elitism.
Imagine if folks started talking about your iPhone, how unreasonable and costly it is, just imagine. We all have our opiums.
Thank you.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Am waiting. Atoe karatasi zake. Mimi ni mbwea kwa haya. Let me be schooled
On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
Alalalalalala... mike, you dont really want to back up that tree...
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rad > Lay bare what you have achieved as a coder. Let me declare that I only > have a Library System to my name and nobody has ever shown interest in > it. > > I would want to know what you have in your CV since my dad taught me > to ask my lecturers their qualification b4 they do anything to my > knowledge > > On 7/8/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: > > it would seen mike is unable to put up, and is all talk even though > > there is nothing to lose. my challenge remains. I will personally be > > there instructing one of the tracks. > > > > On 7/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Deja vu...... > >> > >> On 7/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Deja vu...... > >>> > >>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Well, I have personally been to those events, I dont think they > >>>> are a > >>>> waste > >>>> of time... or money. Anyone else who has ben to one of those > events...? > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM, mike oketch < mikeoketch@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Ndugu Mworia > >>>>> > >>>>> Ask anyone who has been to those events. They will tell you what > >>>>> a > >>>>> waste they are > >>>>> > >>>>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > @okech i think you are hitting below the belt here. there are > people > >>>>> > who > >>>>> > have gone through a lot of trouble to make this event work out. > >>>>> > > >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:58 PM, mike oketch < mikeoketch@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > > >>>>> >> Rad > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> You can give me the 1500 I buy some mtura jioni in Kibera > >>>>> >> while > >>>>> >> finishing to fit our slum web dev centre. > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> None of the people there have anything new to offer. The > >>>>> >> bootcamps > >>>>> >> are > >>>>> >> Straths way of looting like the Kibaki's government is > >>>>> >> teaching > all > >>>>> >> to > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> On 7/8/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> >> > What do you mean 'still rely on off the shelf' jameni! We > >>>>> >> can't > >>>>> >> all > >>>>> >> start > >>>>> >> > coding in assembly. > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > Listen, since the cost bothers you so much, I am willing to > >>>>> >> > sponsor > >>>>> you > >>>>> >> to > >>>>> >> > attend. Put your money where your mouth is. Provided you > >>>>> >> > take > >>>>> >> > copious > >>>>> >> notes, > >>>>> >> > write a comprehensive report on what you learned and upload it > for > >>>>> >> > anyone > >>>>> >> in > >>>>> >> > this forum who cannot attend to share. We keep complaining that > >>>>> >> > the > >>>>> >> problem > >>>>> >> > is sharing information yet when people attempt to share another > >>>>> >> > complaint > >>>>> >> is > >>>>> >> > pulled out of the hat. > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > Like I said before, nothing is absolutely free. > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:04 PM, mike oketch < > mikeoketch@gmail.com> > >>>>> >> wrote: > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> >> rad > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> >> What kind of handson training in sofware developmeot will > people > >>>>> >> >> who > >>>>> >> >> still rely on off the shelf teach me? Ingekuwa sare esp for > >>>>> >> >> our > >>>>> >> >> young > >>>>> >> >> ndugus in colle > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> -- > >>>>> >> Sent from my mobile device > >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> >> Skunkworks mailing list > >>>>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >>>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>>>> >> Other lists > >>>>> >> ------------- > >>>>> >> Skunkworks announce: > >>>>> >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >>>>> >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>>>> >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>>>> >> > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > -- > >>>>> > Regards, > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Mworia Wilfred Mutua > >>>>> > > >>>>> > http://www.afrinnovator.com/ > >>>>> > > >>>>> > Resume: http://www.visualcv.com/wmworia > >>>>> > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/wmworia > >>>>> > Facebook: http://facebook.com/wmworia > >>>>> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/wmworia > >>>>> > googletalk: wmworia > >>>>> > Yahoo IM: wilfred.mworia > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > ---- > >>>>> > > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Sent from my mobile device > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>>>> Other lists > >>>>> ------------- > >>>>> Skunkworks announce: > >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> Mworia Wilfred Mutua > >>>> > >>>> http://www.afrinnovator.com/ > >>>> > >>>> Resume: http://www.visualcv.com/wmworia > >>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/wmworia > >>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/wmworia > >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/wmworia > >>>> googletalk: wmworia > >>>> Yahoo IM: wilfred.mworia > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---- > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> People should know when they are conquered. > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> People should know when they are conquered. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> Other lists > >> ------------- > >> Skunkworks announce: > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > Other lists > > ------------- > > Skunkworks announce: > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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