nmg have just launched a international remittance service called nationhela that sends to and receives from paypal. it might be what you are looking for. checkout it out at nationhela.com



On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:41 AM, <steve@sobbayi.com> wrote:
It is not really a Blacklisting issues, its a variety of factors that are
preventing withdrawals in Banks in Kenya (and other countries) such as:

1. Federal (US) Regulations, read Patriotic Act/Post 911 Terrorism
policies/Money Laundering/Fraud etc. Unfortunately Kenyan policies might
not subscribe to these. Anyway, I wont go into these details.

More importantly is...

2. Paypal's inability to verify the address hence the identity of the
account holders (In Kenya P.O. Boxes are used which is a Big no no). This
is important because If anything goes wrong (read fraud) during a
transaction and Paypal needs to issue a refund to the victim (assuming the
money was promptly withdrawn), it will be a bit tricky for them to deal
with a foreign banks. So Paypal is a little strict on who they allow to
withdraw funds

So in short there is a lot that needs to be ironed out policy wise before
Paypal and its insurers put themselves at risk dealing with foreign users
who cannot be reliably verified.

Having a US bank account gives this verification and that is why you can
comfortably withdraw to a US bank account if you can verify you have one.

I hope this answers this issue of Paypal that keeps coming up on this list
over and over and over...

I think you get the picture.


> Blacklisted how? And you can actually use the money in your Bank account
> via a debit/credit card to pay for a transaction via Paypal. Have they
> just
> blacklisted receiving money?
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Sham Kanji <shamhad@kanji.ca> wrote:
>
>> From what I understand, Kenyan banks are all blacklisted by PayPal. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:
>> skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] *On Behalf Of *Martin Gicheru
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:19 AM
>> *To:* Skunkworks Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Skunkworks] PayPal Withdrawal****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Wewe Bernard you had a promise you made to us on this item.****
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Moses Ekbote <moses1977@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> ****
>>
>> Hello skunks****
>>
>> Any update on PayPal withdrawals through a local bank?
>>
>> Sent from my iPad****
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2012, at 13:51, Boniface <mboteb@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Bernard,
>>
>> Did the bank that was to offer Paypal withdrawals commence those
>> services.
>> Am sure some skunks including me would like to be in the know.
>>
>> /Bonz****
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:14 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>
>> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I do not have  a solution at this point except am aware through very
>> reliable means that a local bank will soon offer Paypal withdrawals and
>> that should sometime later this month.
>>
>> Bernsoft is an appointed technical integration partner for Paypal.
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> I have been reduced to be relying on the web hosting and domains money
>> instead, we are a webhost company infoken.co.ke and our server is histed
>> in the US, use the dollars in paypal to pay for those services and
>> refund
>> myself, its cheaper but dependent on those factors to work, not very
>> reliable.****
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2012 8:26 AM, "Peter Karunyu" <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> While we all wait for Bernsoft to cut through the thick mesh of
>> bureaucratic red tape, here is the method that works for me...
>>
>> When I receive the funds in my paypal, I send them to a "contact" of
>> mine
>> in US who then withdraws the same into his bank account there, then
>> sends
>> the monies to me via Mpesa or Moneygram. Mpesa is usually faster since
>> he
>> can do it from his phone wherever he is, but it is more expensive since
>> he
>> is charged to send and I am charged to withdraw. Moneygram is cheaper
>> and
>> instant, but he has to find a Moneygram depot to send from so it is a
>> bit
>> slower. Withdrawing from Paypal to bank account takes about 3 days.
>>
>> On average, I lose about $10 to $50 due to all those middlemen. The more
>> I
>> send, the more I lose. I lose even more if I am converting from one
>> currency to another. But it is a price I have to bear.
>>
>> Bottomline: It can be done but it is expensive.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Martin Gicheru <martin@techweez.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> So how does Bernsoft work, I havent ever succeeded getting my money off
>> paypal.
>> What does one require to do to achieve this?
>> Martin Gicheru
>> Techweez****
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2012 1:06 PM, "bernard kioko" <bernsoft@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Bernsoft is an official Paypal Integration Partner.****
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Mickey Mickey <michaelakunga@gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> You know this how, please confirm your sources****
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM, bernard kioko <bernsoft@gmail.com>
>> wrote:*
>> ***
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Later on this month, Paypal will launch a withdrawal process through one
>> or more of the local banks.
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Peter Matogo <pmatogo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:***
>> *
>>
>> I'd recommend the MasterCard from CFCStanbic.
>> when applying for the card be sure to inform them that you intend to do
>> this.****
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Tony Likhanga <tlikhanga@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> ****
>>
>> *2012/6/5 Peter Matogo <pmatogo@gmail.com>*****
>>
>> *One solution would be to get a credit card from one of the local banks.
>> You will automatically get an account with the bank. The account can be
>> either a Ksh account or a dollar account. You will then be able to
>> transfer
>> funds between your Paypal account and your bank account.*****
>>
>>
>> @Peter, do you know anyone who has successfully done that? ****
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