@Mike go easy on these guys. i dont know much about what happens at the boot camp or how they will be taught to develop sofware in 3days and asked to get involved in a programming comptition for the next one month.... hhhmm. but the thing is, these students are piking up ideas and a bit of knowledge in the least (if not a wealth of knowledge). I just have one concern and question. Seeing after this there will be a programming competition, am just wondering whether the contestants will be provided with the necesary tools to get this done? Good work though.
 
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From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Daniel Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:55 AM
To: Skunkworks forum
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Mobile Boot Camp 2009 at Strathmore University

@Mike
I think you are in the wrong profession. Any serious developer will tell you that 99% of what they know is self taught. Its all about the passion! Plus i think you are nuts asking Conrad to lay bare his CV. Some of us have benefited greatly from his initiatives at Africa.NET. Jessica is doing a great job. Such stuff wasnt there when i started out.

Mugambi



On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
ha ha! my friend, I do not feel obliged in the least to prove myself
to you and your library system. let any serious professional or pair
of students contact me for the sponsorship.

On 7/8/09, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Mike there
>
> i think we should let people feel free to choose what they want to learn or
> not at whatever cost they want. You may not belief this but the course is
> important to some people. Talking disparagingly about what other people have
> put so much effort to bring to bare sound elitist, and I know you don't like
> class and elitism.
>
> Imagine if folks started talking about your iPhone, how unreasonable and
> costly it is, just imagine. We all have our opiums.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Am waiting. Atoe karatasi zake. Mimi ni mbwea kwa haya. Let me be schooled
>>
>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Alalalalalala... mike, you dont really want to back up that tree...
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:54 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rad
>> >> Lay bare what you have achieved as a coder. Let me declare that I only
>> >> have a Library System to my name and nobody has ever shown interest in
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> I would want to know what you have in your CV since my dad taught me
>> >> to ask my lecturers their qualification b4 they do anything to my
>> >> knowledge
>> >>
>> >> On 7/8/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > it would seen mike is unable to put up, and is all talk even though
>> >> > there is nothing to lose. my challenge remains. I will personally be
>> >> > there instructing one of the tracks.
>> >> >
>> >> > On 7/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Deja vu......
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 7/8/09, nyarotho kennedy <kenyarotho@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> Deja vu......
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>> Well, I have personally been to those events, I dont think they
>> >> >>>> are
>> a
>> >> >>>> waste
>> >> >>>> of time... or money. Anyone else who has ben to one of those
>> >> events...?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Ndugu Mworia
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Ask anyone who has been to those events. They will tell you what
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> waste they are
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On 7/8/09, Mworia Wilfred Mutua <wmworia@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> > @okech i think you are hitting below the belt here. there are
>> >> people
>> >> >>>>> > who
>> >> >>>>> > have gone through a lot of trouble to make this event work out.
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:58 PM, mike oketch <
>> mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >
>> >> >>>>> >> Rad
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> You can give me the 1500 I buy some mtura jioni in Kibera
>> >> >>>>> >> while
>> >> >>>>> >> finishing to fit our slum web dev centre.
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> None of the people there have anything new to offer. The
>> >> >>>>> >> bootcamps
>> >> >>>>> >> are
>> >> >>>>> >> Straths way of looting like the Kibaki's government is
>> >> >>>>> >> teaching
>> >> all
>> >> >>>>> >> to
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> On 7/8/09, Rad! <conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >>  > What do you mean 'still rely on off the shelf' jameni! We
>> >> >>>>> >> can't
>> >> >>>>> >> all
>> >> >>>>> >> start
>> >> >>>>> >> > coding in assembly.
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> > Listen, since the cost bothers you so much, I am willing to
>> >> >>>>> >> > sponsor
>> >> >>>>> you
>> >> >>>>> >> to
>> >> >>>>> >> > attend. Put your money where your mouth is. Provided you
>> >> >>>>> >> > take
>> >> >>>>> >> > copious
>> >> >>>>> >> notes,
>> >> >>>>> >> > write a comprehensive report on what you learned and upload
>> it
>> >> for
>> >> >>>>> >> > anyone
>> >> >>>>> >> in
>> >> >>>>> >> > this forum who cannot attend to share. We keep complaining
>> that
>> >> >>>>> >> > the
>> >> >>>>> >> problem
>> >> >>>>> >> > is sharing information yet when people attempt to share
>> another
>> >> >>>>> >> > complaint
>> >> >>>>> >> is
>> >> >>>>> >> > pulled out of the hat.
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> > Like I said before, nothing is absolutely free.
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:04 PM, mike oketch <
>> >> mikeoketch@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >> >> rad
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >> What kind of handson training in sofware developmeot will
>> >> people
>> >> >>>>> >> >> who
>> >> >>>>> >> >> still rely on off the shelf teach me? Ingekuwa sare esp for
>> >> >>>>> >> >> our
>> >> >>>>> >> >> young
>> >> >>>>> >> >> ndugus in colle
>> >> >>>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> >>
>> >> >>>>> >> --
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