Association of Kenyan Insurers is abbreviated, AKI, reminds me on one 'aki', where did he go to

Anyhow, they got back to me rather quickly with the terse reply that "No, it is not possible.".

For completeness, the question I asked them was, partially "Might it be possible to get the makes and models of cars involved in accidents and consequent claims? I am interested to know which make and model has the least accidents in Kenya".

 


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
 is this for real   "you can email waiganjo@police.go.ke" Is this the
impostor? am sure his email by now has been disabled.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM, MotoBaridi <motobaridi@gmail.com> wrote:
> "...know which car NOT to buy as I happen to respect the mathematics of
> probability..."
> Assume your data shows NO accidents involving CAR X. You go ahead and
> purchase CAR X based on that assumption of safety. Could be that that
> particular car is SO UNSAFE, no one/few bothers to drive it any meaningful
> distance/at all.
>
> Think those ancient Chevrolet pickups that are now mostly used to ferry milk
> from farm to dairy. I guess they may not even appear in your data. They
> probably are the very definition of "unsafe", but their contribution to the
> overall is insignificant.
>
> Probox might have a high rating on your chart, but that is most probably
> because of the miraa drivers and their F1 antics. The Probox is probably
> just as good as any other car.
>
> </>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> @Odhiambo, I agree with you to some extent; my list of potential accident
>> cause agents reads thus:
>>
>> 1. People
>> 2. Infrastructure; which are built, maintained (or not) and vandalized by
>> people, thus the real cause is people
>> 3. Vehicles; e.g. the recent case of Toyota's self-accelerating. But
>> vehicles are still built and maintained (or not) by people
>> 4. Nature; one might argue that human beings are invariably changing the
>> weather patterns, but this is highly debatable.
>>
>> So, rephrasing my research question: Which vehicle make and model is used
>> most by people who cause accidents? Then my secondary question would be;
>> which vehicle make and model is involved most in accidents caused by acts of
>> nature :-)
>>
>> I am afraid that the goal of my research is not so noble as to finish some
>> brands, I simply want to win an argument with a colleague who trashed a
>> certain make and model, and secondly, know which car NOT to buy as I happen
>> to respect the mathematics of probability.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> This is interesting, or maybe not. Vehicles don't cause accidents by
>>> themselves. I therefore declare the results of your research null and void,
>>> repugnant to the laws of nature, etc :-)
>>> Has money been poured to finish some brand in Kenya?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Small correction, I am not collecting the data, though I wish I was, I
>>>> am merely seeking out that data with the assumption that someone else has
>>>> already collected it.
>>>>
>>>> My interest lies in the vehicles themselves. My core knowledge gap is:
>>>> Which vehicle (make and model) is involved in the most accidents in Kenya,
>>>> ceteris paribus?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Tusker 21 <tusker212@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vehicle accidents. Does it mean that you are only collecting data for
>>>>> vehicles only or also of persons/ victims involved in the accidents as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington
>>>>> <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Karunyu,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ingrained fear of the Police people? You seem to also have ingrained
>>>>>> criminal mind<LOL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe you can also get the data from Police Hq (Vigilance Hse) at
>>>>>> Harambee Avenue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, why don't you just call the Traffic Commandant on the phone
>>>>>> (which you can easily find if you want) and ask him (from a far because if
>>>>>> you get closer he might just order this ka suspicious looking suspect that
>>>>>> is you to be looked in while they investigate) if it's even remotely
>>>>>> possible for a civilian of your stature to be given these 'confidential'
>>>>>> police data - never mind that no accident is confidential<LMFAO>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks guys. Since I seem to have an ingrained fear of Police people,
>>>>>>> I shall try the insurers first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But wait, wouldn't the insurers data be secondary? Since, I assume,
>>>>>>> it is sourced from insurance claims? My assumption being that not all
>>>>>>> accidents result in insurance claims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM, amanya <whynnot@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i would check with the Traffic Police or the Association of Kenya
>>>>>>>> Insurers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone know where I can get statistics on vehicle accidents in .ke?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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