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From: Peter Karunyu <
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Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Zain outtage??
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 12:02:50 +0300
@Job, thanks to skunkworks, I can now take part in intelligent
conversations with intelligent people talking about intelligent sounding
stuff like ADMs, BSCs, MSCs and my ultimate favourite, DTMF! :-) If
skunksworks was a person, I would make him my best friend!
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Job Muriuki <
muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't you love this list, all the tech stuff is very impressive
anyway
give Zain a breather. Look at the incumbent in there sector, it
has
all kinds of issues and Zain gets a rear tech hitch and you are
quick
to judge. It has the best voice service in kenya.
On 10/6/09, David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd
<
kianiadee@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not possible to comprehend the problem unless you
understand the
> GSM Architecture in the light of what Nick has offered to be
correct
> and heard the same from another reliable source. All Nairobi
and
> greater Nairobi all the way to Kajiado is handled by a BSC
site in a
> building within the CBD and is backhauled to Parkside where
the MSC is
> located via fiber.
>
> As part of the transmission design they have Add Drop
Multiplexers
> (ADMs) which provision STM connections depending on need and
> protection to the MSC site or other locations. It's these ADMs
that
> failed causing the problem. This is would have been the case
had it
> been a physical fiber break and it reveals need for additional
> transmission redundancy or protection as is commonly referred.
>
> It's not unusual for incidents like this to occur in normal
operations
> of a GSM network and we should not be very harsh on them. The
loss of
> business during this window is punishment enough.
>
> Kiania
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:48 AM, nick muttai
<
nmuttai@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Roy,
>> True that, but all hardware modules in a BSC are totally
redundant (either
>> 1+1 or N+1 redundancy scheme) including the PCM interface
>> boards, providing
>> an automatic failover switch capability. This is true for all
serious GSM
>> equipment vendors. So the services dependent on these modules
shouldn't be
>> down that long especially for a big GSM provider like Zain
and in
>> locations
>> like the CBD where the number of subscribers is humongous.
>> This is all based on a lot of theory and a little bit of
observation so my
>> conjecture is open to correction.
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Roy Michoma
<
roymichoma@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> u cant have redundant BSC's
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Alvin Jason Ochieng
<
ajochola@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My line is also down & i have no bills pending !!! NKT !!!!
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/09, nick muttai <
nmuttai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A reliable source tells me that one of their their ADMs
"died" Any Zain
>>>>> guy to confirm this?And how comes they do not have
redundancy on key
>>>>> BSC
>>>>> components and services?
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Jared Koyier
<
jaredkoyier@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SOLOMON....Surely do you think ZAIN anticipated an
outtage at peak hrs
>>>>>> and let it take course? Most technical faults are never
seen apriori
>>>>>> and it is unrealistic for a customer to be warned
beforehand unless it
>>>>>> is a scheduled maintenance. Dont fry zain,they lost more
biz than
>>>>>> majority of their subscibers due to that outtage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/10/2009, Steve Muchai <
smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Solomon Mburu
<
solo.mburu@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >> One strange thing, though, they didn't inform the
consumers of an
>>>>>> >> impending outage.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > there was never an "impending" outage, it was an
unexpected outage.
>>>>>> > They did send out an apology, thus acknowledging the
incident,
>>>>>> > though,
>>>>>> > which I think is a good thing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > BR,
>>>>>> > S
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