@TheMburu : channel ?

On 4 March 2011 07:27, TheMburu George <themburu@gmail.com> wrote:

@Phares and Aki why dont you confrence on skunks irc so many guys are logged in there nowadays, and i beleive if u agree on the time then no matter the place everyone can login including those who wouldnt make it to the meeting and those interested in the progress.

Me thots

./TheMburu

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:02 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:

@Phares, if possible and in my view, let us avoid forming or laying the foundation for an association/foundation without the views and inputs of everyone, else I believe we may end up as another dis-integrated group. If you have a plan, please share details on this list and let us all review with a way forward. :-)

 

 

@Oliver, great thoughts and thanks for sharing. By the look of things, though I could be wrong, it seems that we have become quite a scattered community because the current situation/foundations/associations are dis-integrated into basically stake-holder kind of units. Stake-holders community is really the worst kind, because it locks out everyone else due in vested interests within the broader community.

 

Then we are most likely looking at groups within an association/foundation. My concern then is, how can we keep a common ground on our principle mission i.e. build on KE?

 

 

Rgds. :-)

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Oliver Ndegwa <olie.ndegwa@gmail.com> wrote:

I started a similar thread sometime ago and it is great to see something similar come back so soon.

What is important to consider in such a foundation are things like members benefits in the market place like we have with other professions world wide. Take for instance in Uk they have a foundation for graphic designers and this ensures that the any graphic designer is registered with that organisation. The benefits come in two fold. 

1. ensure that any one who recruits you as a contractor or staff member, you get the best offers in terms of remuneration.

2. Proprietary rights and IP on your work.

We have had scenarios here in Kenya where you develop a software for a client and just because they paid for your Dev. time they want to own the Intellectual property. It becomes such a messy issue trying to get the client to understand that they own the business process and not the code. Name it developers deal with a lot problems and most of them will actually give in either for the handouts or just for lack of information on what to do. Ones you have done this the client changes developer and all your effort goes to the Dogs.

So let us look further beyond developing and look at what more can members fetch and benefit from such a formation. We have set the record straight on our capabilities after scooping a few global awards last year from the i-cow to Virtual city's awards and the list continues.

Lets put a voice that the rest of the world will in no time recognize and make it very very successful/.  Count me in.

Regards

Oliver 

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