Steve stop apologizing,,this guy started name calling here..i also took it personally,,infact for me he also called me a heckler..and like i said he has nothing to show for "knowing all".. always blowing his own trumpet and bashing! I rest my case.. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry list, shouldn't have posted this. But Aki's insult really got to me, and I've had a very long day and night. Time to go to sleep. Sorry if I got personal, but I took that insult personally as well.
BR S
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Steve Muchai <smuchai@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM, aki <aki275@gmail.com> wrote:
@John, I'm going to avoid making any "noise" here and will try my best to keep it brief: :-)
1) My comment on Open Source Crap created by morons was in response to that Firewall thread. And I'll not back off this and here's why. Just because some moron out there has not created a full Open Source project on the
Some morons have, the solutions exist and they do work.
Network layer that others can download to install and use does not mean that a solution does not exist. I was pretty surprised when that thread went into the need for programming, when there is no such need.
You took the thread there, remember?
the fact that it is better to certify on Cisco than on Open Source, yet I can tell you that Open Source like FreeBSD could have easily fixed 50% of the Firewall thread question. Within FreeBSd is a module called PF & ALTQ combined with DPI through the firewall that can handle everything a network needs, yet I did no see any response from the Open Source experts . Even
Listen to yourself. You started bashing open source, the thread went downhill then turn around and say you didn't see responses from the "Open Source experts"? Do I need to post the entire thread here for you to read again? And are they obliged to answer any way? To make you happy, perhaps?
worse, I've not seen any local Open Source experts create devices that can be used on the network layer, however others are ready to suggest boxed
Maybe you haven't looked hard enough.
solutions as an alternative. I have total respect for FreeBSD as its what I used for many things including trying to create 16 port Ethernet IP DSLAMS for Multi-Tenant Internet distribution systems as a networking passion, however this is now almost 4-5 years ago.At that time I was at the same stage as many Open Source people on this list i.e what can a downloadable
You have no idea how many on this list have been there, done that, and contributed back. Doesn't have to be in terms of code, but helpful feedback, bug catching etc...and are still doing it.
Great, now move on and let those who are still in that stage go through it without insulting them. Maybe some of us morons will never move past it to where you are, but we reserve the right not to.
BR S
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