I also don't get the resistance to building a new city as opposed to panel beating the current one. The way I understand city growths and the planners role in them is that a master plan developed for a period needs to be followed lest other plans for the countries economy fail. The reason I say it is not feasible to insist on fixing Nairobi is because we have options and relocating the populations of Githurai, Kibera and other unplanned neighborhoods will cost more whether in terms of social peace, lost investment or political conflict. We can always attempt to roll back the snowball effect of the past regimes or stop it in its tracks by focussing on another slope. Nairobi will not whither as a result but probably grow bigger and swallow up Konza eventually. Why not build new? Set a standard that can be copied countrywide? Meanwhile fix Nairobi as is apparently the best thing to do. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:37 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com> wrote:
I doubt the government has given up on Nairobi. For starters Konza City's size is a small fraction of Nairobi.
@Brian, you do not need proper roads to construct buildings. I have seen some of the so called 'serviced' plots in Nairobi that have roads, street lights and water before the start of homes construction. By the time the estate is half constructed the tarmac roads are long gone.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Brian Ngure <brian@pixie.co.ke> wrote:
Catch 22??
You need roads in order to build the buildings, BUT the building of the buildings will destroy the roads [?]
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:49 PM, David Njuguna <dnjuguna@gmail.com>wrote:
My two cents are; if you build roads before buildings you will not have any roads by the time buildings are constructed. The heavy construction machinery will destroy the roads.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>wrote:
Many seem to believe the sentiments you have listed but i think it comes more from our distrust for the government(and impending elections) than the fact that a city can be built from scratch. I have had this argument with many who say that Konza will be a white elephant. what they however need to study is how similar projects have been done around the world from south korea(8 smart cities) ,to malaysia,to singapore , to china and closer to home egypt.
what the government is saying in short is "Nairobi is already messed up beyond repair, we are giving you a chance to invest in an ideal city and giving you incentives to do the same" .they are saying this to both locals and internationals. Internationals seem to be listening more.
As with anything else I could be wrong but if im right, a lot of people will be kicking themselves in the foot in 2017 for not going in, and if im wrong, well.....life goes on and a few very rich organisations lose a small part of their investment. i believe the former will be the case.
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Kevin Omondi <kevin.ouma@gmail.com>wrote:
This weekend I was excited chating with someone from an International Tech company about the new opportunities in Konza Silicon Savannah.
He however asked me a question that got me thinking.
If you were to go set up a campus today in Konza where would you start. What he was saying is that the government should have first put up the infrstructure i.e roads, water, sewage connectivity and then invited investors to come in otherwise it is a piped dream.
In other words, by the time Kibaki was breaking ground all these needed to have been in place.
What are your thoughts, how can this be made to work quickly.
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