Very true, your concerns are real and will be a challenge - I think if the mobile companies are genuine then cross network charges can be much lower and next to standardized like the 8bob across networks for Zain & Orange ( I stand corrected on this) and not as high as SufferingCon's charges across networks ./Ok3ch On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Okech...
This is where I suspected the confusion will set in:
8.If I can't tell what network somebody is with from the number, how will discounts for calls on the same network operate (on-net calls)?
The providers will know who their customers are, so they can still offer the discounts, but callers won't necessarily know if the people they call have switched to a new provider. To avoid unexpected charges, mobile users should confirm with their friends and their associates that they are using the same mobile network. It is therefore generally always better to use the service of the largest network(Vodacom), with the most subscribers to enjoy the cheapest calls.
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Alot of what you are asking is answered here - http://www.cellucity.co.za/numberporting.htm
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
What;s the experience in these countries? E.g. In SA, how much does it cost to have my number "ported" to another network? And how are the services transparent, if at all?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
Number portability is working in many countries - for example SA - and all these are taken into account when CCK was doing the feasibility studies - We are not doing one here to answer this questions.
./Ok3ch
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Responses from operators attached http://www.cck.go.ke/links/consultations/published_responses.html Technically, I suspect its deployment to be painful.E.g. If i subscribe to Number portabilty, this means my NDC(0722) will remain the same across networks.This means a separate entity/Sub Db will be required to be queried for every call setup in the network(s) which has to be integrated to all operator billing systems. If I migrate to say orange, and use their network, obviously services will not vary.Its not clear how the transparent the tariff will be since a safcom subscriber calling me will expect to be charged as normal whereas I'm now technically on Orange network. What's the mechanism to be used to inform the caller that the dialed number is now on Orange and not safcom? Wouldn't that lead to confusion? Will there be delays in call setup time since now a separate core network node has been introduced? Are there successful(or not) case studies for us to understand these scenarios?
./bernard
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:32 PM, lordmwesh <lordmwesh@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why someone would want to buy safaricom then shift to zain, or yu. Price wars cannot be a justification. Maybe features war.
There are people who have invested heavily on their networks in terms of service features like Mpesa, paybill, and other subscriber services.
And finally, once you have migrated say from safaricom to orange, how will I know in which network you belong? I would wish to send you Mpesa, or call you expecting rates like those of my network
Regards
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