@Aki's right, i have a PC based flight simulator and spent quite a number of hours on it as well as training flight simulators. Now flying in adverse weather conditions isnt that easy. coz you get bumped quite alot and God forbid the flight should stall, getting it back on its correct heading and flight level is a nasty experience with all the alarms going off. In a storm you also get disorientated coz everything outside the window loks the same and yu cant see the horizon. Then there are the G Forces you've got to contend with... ya! Anyway, If you speaking of landings you should try being in a plane trying to land at Reagan National in Washington DC. depending on where you coming in from, its a hair raising experience. around Washington DC there alot of no fly zones and the pilots have to cut corners around those areas so for 1st timers you get the impression the pilot's lost control of the plane and is trying to get it level again. Steve Obbayi, _____ From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:37 AM To: Skunkworks forum Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Air France: Turbulence brought it down? I am glad you had a pleasant experience on KQ. I did a trip between Kigali and Buju, Feb 25 last year and to this day if I meet that pilot, whose name I wont disclose, am going to ground with him. That exactly is my beef with our national carrier, you either have one of extreme poles, excellent service or the stuff cows drop, nothing in between and no consistency. They have isolated incidents of excellence like yours but they are few and far between. Kiania On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM, aki <aki275@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi David, not sure if you ever had an interest in flying but try some flight simulators ( the serious ones, wacha those silly one where one can fly on endless fuel ) and check out how stressful a stall can be to correct. One one trip to west africa a few years ago, my hats off to a KQ pilot who must have had thermal vision radar in his head, as the landing approach was completely covered in fog, heavy rain and the runway was slippery with many patches of rain water. This guy got the plane down, though I could tell by flaps noise and engine revs he was struggling to keep it straight. On touchdown, he engaged reverse thrust longer than usual. Pilots go through very stressful situations. I was just glad to get out of plane but left a note for him with a hostess. Job well done! _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon