@Odhiambo, see my opinions inline.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:50, Peter Karunyu <pkarunyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I did.

  1. Stop thinking about the technology at this point, you are just wasting time which could be better used designing the solution. Note that technology just implements part of the solution, its not the solution in and by itself.
True, but we are looking at a the solution from a technology point of view.

Ok. I just wanted to point out programmers, me guilty, tend to look at a problem only from the perspective of technology, thus predisposing the solution for failure, due to lack of consideration of the other perspectives of the solution, i.e. human user perspective, operating environment perspective etc.
 
  1. Solve the human factor sub-problem; what privacy concerns will such a solution raise? How will each of them be solved?
What privacy are people talking about here? What is it that you have that is associated with the govt that you think is still private?

The govt already has a lot of data on any citizen, but as it stand right now, most of it sits in paper based system or non integrated computer based systems. This is a blessing in disguise in that someone who wants to get my KRA and land transfer data would have to hack into KRA system AND walk to ardhi house to get my land transfer data (as an example).

My point: the lack of a central system makes it harder for any person to compile a complete profile of Peter. Note, makes it harder, not impossible. A central system with all my data is an easier target for authorized or otherwise access.
 
 
  1. Some parts of Kenya have no electricity, leave alone internet; how will those people access the solution?
Electricity is not a limitation. Terminals can run on rechargable batteries, just like phones. Electricity is never more than 10km away even at those places without it.
 
Exactly! Now we thinking of the other perspectives, the operating environment! Based on what I have watched on NTV Country Edition, some parts of this country are quite far from "civilization", probably more than 10KM. So how do we make sure the people there have equal access to the solution?
 
 
  1. We all know the capability of our govt in terms of security, so how can we improve it to be sufficient for such a undertaking. Having all the citizens data in one 'database' is what I think is called a Honeypot, a target sweet enough to awaken the uber hackers who would make those script kiddies who deface websites seems like idiotic morons
And what will they be looking for? The UID (Universal ID)? They can get that already.
Based on very limited research, if someone want to perform an identity theft, they would need to know everything about you; financial, medical, social, demographical etc. In my opinion, if the govt was to realize full benefits from such a system, they would have to store just about every data about you collected by govt agencies.

Pretty soon, the private sector would want to tap into this database for their own processes, and eventually, ALL data about you will be available via ONE universal ID.

All I am saying, the problem is letter A in the alphabet, the database and primary keys are letter T, and theres a whole lot of work to do in between, and this work just happens to the most important.

I thought what was important in the original posting was to have a single identification that identifies someone across the board - not an ID/No, Passport No, D/L Number, PIN Number - all issued by the govt.
Yes. A single identification, with which a citizen can be identified anywhere in the government.
 

I personally don't care about the security of those numbers. They are with the govt and anyone who has a way of getting them will get them. My point for supporting the OP was in the context of having a single universal identification number - that can be used to track/identify me everywhere, by govt or by blackhats!

You don't care about the security of those numbers, but some other citizen cares, so how would the solution then cater for these two scenarios?
 



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