And i wasnt referring to you or your topic either, IMO, discussions about Yoda are not OT, after all, we had a server back in high school called Yoda, rub by a Mr. Staurt Gray, ok. let me end this here before it turns into one of these: <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://www.chucklorre.com/">http://www.chucklorre.com/</a>