"Killed a million?" I always thought there were lesser casualties that a million. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Nuclear energy is quite unsafe, especially with the impunity and neglect that we have in the country. Reminds me of that Indian Bhopal chemical blast that killed a million. 2009/7/27 Njoroge Tito <titonjoroge@gmail.com>
My thoughts...
Coal,diesel, water.. not the future.
i always ask myself this though - what would it take to have nuclear power in Kenya? Do we have enough demand? Do we have enough capacity to manage without creating "hiroshima"s? Do we have the funds/funding to get it? Dont we have uranium deposits somewhere? Egypt will always beat us at manufacturing due to low power prices. We cannot constantly rely on poor rains for power.
Anyway, future is in renewable sources. i.e solar esp with global warming, wind. I like the Ngong Hills wind thing + the one in Turkana. I always hope that we shall frog jump the "nuclear" stage to renewable sources, same way we jumped the landlines and credit cards to mobile phones and Mpesa.
Tito.
2009/7/27 Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com>
we dont have to rely on coal, or diesel or any other fossil fuel. . .
.. there is currently alot of untapped wind energy that is free, clean and renewable. . . .all the coal and diesel is used to produce power anyway so we might as well use wind, tidal and solar as energy sources. .. . . the technology is there what isn't is the profit that goes into maintanance and thats why the goverment is armtwisted by multinationals not to develop alternative sources. . . . .
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Phares Kariuki<pkariuki@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree, think of the environment. However. Look at this practically. China, India, US etc, are currently burning loads of coal. Its cheap. We have no energy. We are burning diesel. We are still polluting, while driving up global energy pricing and paying a premium for the energy. Sad thing is that you need to have a large scale economy to consider nuclear. We cant get there without enough energy. There is clean coal technology. Reduces the footprint. We can plant trees. The situation though is untenable...
On 7/27/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
still it doesnt beat burning down the mau and other forests. And according to xkcd.com , everything else is getting cooler, except the environment which we completely f*ed up. 2009/7/27 Peter Karunyu < pkarunyu@gmail.com>
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> In the same vein... KDN have moved to solar > http://afromusing.com/2009/07/26/kenya-data-networks-opts-for-solar-energy/ > > We may have our first undersea fibre optic cable, but we should now be > praying that .go.ke starts up a coal plant which is (one of, if not the) > cheapest sources of electricity. > > > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Bernard Mwagiru > <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote: > >> 80,000?!!! >> The fiber that landed will be used as backhaul to ISPs that had relied >> on VSAT. >> Calculate the number of internet users (including GPRS/EDGE/3G mobile >> users) and you should find a huge number.... >> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM, ndungu stephen < >> ndungustephen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> <see attached image> >>> >>> Is this true ? >>> >>> Study estimates that we may have only 80k home users - and that 3 fibre >>> optic cables may be an over supply.. >>> >>> But then again - we can sell... >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> Other lists >>> ------------- >>> Announce: >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > -- > With Regards, > > Phares Kariuki > > | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki@gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: > kariukiphares | > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >
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