I read somewhere that $afcom paid 25B for the 3G license and this is what other Telcos need to pay to get the license. Now, it seems CCK (and by extention the governemnt) gladly took the money and I can't understand this. Didn't they think that this 25B cost will be passed down to the consumer? Didn't they also think that $afcom will become dominant in fast mobile internet, after all they're the only ones who can afford it? I don't fault $afcom in what they do, they're simply doing what many businesses do, be the market leader. I fault our institutions, which seem to shift to whatever/whoever is favoring them. They let $afcom be the dominant player, then latter come back and want to 'cut it down to size'. Just my 2 shillings! 2 cents is not worth the bandwidth I'm paying through 3G to send this email! 8~( --- On Thu, 5/6/10, Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> wrote: From: Eric Mugo <kabugum@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom getting purnished unfairly To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:16 AM CCK only regulates the communications sector therefore other sectors will not be affected.... (How comes no one talks about how EABL went about killing Keroche industries.....these regulations cannot even assist Keroche).....The Government messed up from the beginning and let Safaricom become what is it today. To be fair we cannot fully blame Safaricom...Kencell was there as competition and we all know the road they took...therefore Safaricom simply took advantage of the situation and used it efficiently.... If you have read that document, you will realize that becoming a dominant player is almost like a curse...there are so many decisions that are beyond the business itself and have to be approved by an outside entity who will not care much on the effect of the decisions to the business.....these regulations while i would like to believe they are meant for the good of the consumers, they smell of Revenge and maliciousness towards safaricom of which some of us are shareholders.....one thing people need to remember is that it is also the only publicly listed Telco with Mwananchi shareholders....who owns the competitors...some foreigners and a few wealthy individuals I don't see this tactic working even if they are enforced in the worst case scenario. The reason being Safaricom did not become what it is today purely because of pricing, its mostly because of innovation and the wide range of products the competitors cannot match up...but if it does work, then shareholders may consider On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:28 PM, <mikeoketch@aol.com> wrote: David Thanks for bringing this out. The regulation will touch on anyone who wants to dominate any sector. It is not targeting a player. Safaricom's argument is this. "We are the only one with over 25% market share hence for now, we are alone in the boiling pot of this regulation". My bad. Yes you are being roasted but it is not personal MJ. And these are rules which should have been introduced loong time ago. The condition in the market now is that Safaricom is a monopoly. That is making competition and consumer right side issues. We must fight for this and the only way Safaricom will change is when we tell them that no, they must reform. The market is not level and so others cant compete. Safaricom will even get alot of airtime telling their story but others will be shut out because of the kidn of money which Safaricom spends in the advertisement. Oketch -----Original Message----- From: David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd <kianiadee@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom getting purnished unfairly I think this discussion is too skewed toward the Mobile sector what I would be interested to know, would the same law apply to KDN, Wananchi Online, KBC (Signet) or Citizen TV should it be found that they are abusing their Fiber/Airwaves or HFC deployments for market share? If not then yes Safaricom is being targeted. No regulation should target a player (Unless they are Micro$oft or Intel). Let's also not forget the DG's background he was working in Competition dept, it was only a matter of time before this kind of measure showed up, some personal fingerprint and accolades for taming the bad boys. My thoughts Kiania D On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Gituma Nturibi <gnturibi@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys the regulations will probably make safcom lower their tariffs- cheaper calls for the subscribers. How is that a bad thing? The subscriber wins, making it easier to do business, not having to carry 3 or 4 lines with you to keep in touch. That makes communication simpler for us. Then the companies can be judged on the quality of their service. Don't like one network? Move with your number to another... Been waiting for this for years!
On 5/5/10, mikeoketch@aol.com <mikeoketch@aol.com> wrote:
Guys
The regulations are here http://www.cck.go.ke/regulations/sector_regulations.html
Let nobody cheat you that CCK is targeting Safaricom. Like we said to Dr Ndemo. We as the young people can innovate with cheap technology but we will resort to Haki Yetu antics if and when some players are allowed unofficial monopoly since we wont ever get cheaper services.
I like the arguments of Odhiambo. Safaricom holds all the high spenders and it is stifling competition
Oketch
-----Original Message----- From: Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:28 pm Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom getting purnished unfairly
Does anyone have the exact laws that were published on pdf so that we may understand why one grown man is grumbling while three others are cheering?
./Ok3ch
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote:
I disagree,,,, except for interconnectivity charges. That should come down, then leave every man (or telco) to himself.
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
Totally agree with you Okech....
./bernard
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:
All I see here is a personal opinion, and not a direct reference to the said laws and where the laws are punishing SufferingCon
./Ok3ch
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola@gmail.com> wrote: > > Politics Peter....... > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Alvin; > > > > Im seething with anger the whole day, why kill an innovative > > company? > > > > Me > >
Alvin;
Politics doesnt feed me, it keeps me hungry. Politics doesn't turn a profit, an innovative company does. Politics doesn't employ me - they take my taxes and waste it, an innovative company rewards its employees who in turn reward people close to them, including you, the customer - with good/exemplary service.
They should not please a few players that do not know what they need to do in the first place. Please no more politics. Nkt.
Peter
Don't wait for success; hunt it down like there's no tomorrow.
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