Well, if these are the 'rules', then I think we are headed the wrong direction. The Government (CCK) should discoruage the use of obsolete technology and encourage operators to use the most current technologies and standards available. Why would one want to pay for a 2G license in a 4G era? Unless someone is really making a lot of money on the deals, they don't make sense.

No wonder I heard KBC (now on the brink of collapse) purchase billions of shillings worth of AM, MW and SW equipment just when the whole world was going FM and digital. And now apart from having unless equipment, they foot KES 30 Million for electric every month.

I this we have a case of failed leadership.

So they will force new internet consumers to cycle from using 19.2 kbps modems before being allowed to use the fiber optic then.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
According to industry rules, any new telco must cycle through all
standards, ie must  pay for 2G before been allowed to use 3G. So it
becomes cheaper to differ a  3G launch. Thats according to one of the
industry equipment manufacturers insider who is also on this list.

On 14/07/2009, Philip Musyoki <pmusyoki@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mobile networks using GSM are now heading towards the 4G standard, that will
> be all IP. Equipment makers like Ericsson have some commercial versions of
> 4G though I do not know any telco using the platform commercially.
>
> Which brings me to my next point, why would a new telco like YU, chose to go
> 2G instead of 3G? Initially I was so optimistic that they would come up with
> a pure 3G network and I was even ready to dump my favorite 3G network. I was
> in for a such, suffice is to say I was disappointed enough not to try their
> network.
>
> And the DVB-H used by Safaricom, where does it just fall between 3G and 4G?
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:24 PM, nyarotho kennedy
> <kenyarotho@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> <penimbili>
>> Well i am working on the Ericsson Service Development studio - which by
>> the
>> way ran me into problems with fellow peace loving skunks (search thread
>> "Solaris 10 problems") when i tried explaining what the IP Multimedia
>> Subsystem is and how things run in there. i concur with Wes but i dont
>> fault
>> the 'local' telcos that much. from what i gather independently, Safaricom,
>> Zain (hope they still use that name) and even Yu arent that much into R&D,
>> they just pick on the latest idea. They leave the rest to the likes of
>> Nokia
>> Siemens, Ericsson, Huaweii, Alcatel etc who have very good VAS Departments
>> which i believe dont just facilitate call forwading. these are the big
>> boys
>> to talk to. why do you think M-Pesa, Zap ,sambaza and eneza are similar in
>> architecture?? Answer: one provider of the technology. Atleast locally
>> Huaweii have done some good work that i know of concerning development of
>> services. Back to SDS, its a very good platform to start with, kudos to
>> Ericsson. reason? it is based on the IMS which is a SIP based environment
>> that is all IP. when you critically analyse the current communication
>> trends
>> and study the 3GPP2 proposed architecture, you notice a slow but sure
>> elimination of the traditinal nodes/systems in the core network that will
>> eventually leave an all-IP based system. Now with a well structured IP
>> network backed with highly promising fibre optic network, you can only
>> imagine what endless possibilities there are, we are talking of
>> ..........(my ideas:)! well its now done to you.......
>>
>> God bless y'all!
>> </penimbili>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Garum <gilbert.arum@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> The APIs to the Telcos back-end infrastructure often developed and
>>> owned by the different providers. Quite a number have made these
>>> publicly available. For example: See
>>> http://www.ericsson.com/developer/sub/warehouse/index.html
>>>
>>> GA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kioko<dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Maybe you should try approaching yu. they are innovative and look eager
>>> > enough to adapt new ideas. Zain should be on the bottom of the list,
>>> > the
>>> > most they are eager enough is to change names.
>>> >
>>> > 2009/7/14 wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi yall,
>>> >>
>>> >> Can one of our ever competing Telcos develop a platform and expose
>>> >> APIs
>>> >> that allow developers to plug in applications to their back-end
>>> >> infrastructure that they hold dear? There are many developers who want
>>> to
>>> >> build awesome mobile applications but they would like access to the
>>> Telcos
>>> >> infrastructure for the application to make business/market sense. With
>>> all
>>> >> these applications, come the subscribers.
>>> >>
>>> >> If there is a Telco out there willing to do the next big thing after
>>> >> M-PESA, then I believe this is it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Have a department of skilled developers familiar with Telco stuff and
>>> the
>>> >> department will be the link to the outside developers, providing
>>> knowledge,
>>> >> support etc that a normal developer would need to plug in. Hopefully
>>> >> if
>>> at
>>> >> all the developer is charged anything then it will be reasonable.
>>> >>
>>> >> O_o?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Skunkworks mailing list
>>> >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
>>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke
>>> >> Other lists
>>> >> -------------
>>> >> Skunkworks announce:
>>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
>>> >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>> >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > with Regards:
>>> > Nairobi Eastlands, how the Mungiki reduce crime, at a fee. Only at my
>>> blog:
>>> > http://gramware.blogspot.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Skunkworks mailing list
>>> > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
>>> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke
>>> > Other lists
>>> > -------------
>>> > Skunkworks announce:
>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
>>> > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>> > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>> >
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Skunkworks mailing list
>>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke
>>> Other lists
>>> -------------
>>> Skunkworks announce:
>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> People should know when they are conquered.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Skunkworks mailing list
>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke
>> Other lists
>> -------------
>> Skunkworks announce:
>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general
>>
>>
>


--
with Regards:
Nairobi Eastlands, how the Mungiki reduce crime, at a fee. Only at my blog:
http://gramware.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________
Skunkworks mailing list
Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks
Other services @ http://my.co.ke
Other lists
-------------
Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce
Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science
kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general