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Mobicash Limited, a company that provides a universal payment platform with
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:39:20 +0300
From: Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo@gmail.com>
To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
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There will always be people who want to be different, so there will always
be market for an alternative provider

I think safaricom succeeded in making their competition chase down the wrong
alley. First was to make people believe that Cost was the issue, ask Airtel
how many people moved vis a vis getting another line

Now they made them think its Portability.....and airtel swallowed it and
passed on the same to HQ in India....now they are doing full page ads

Have I even considered moving? I have Mpesa(and my entire clan and broke
pals) I use Okoa Jahazi easily, even more importantly i have groups of
friends on Semeni(SMS groups- will we all migrate? you tell me) and you can
buy safaricom credit anywhere within the kenyan borders,im sure even Pirates
okoa jahazi(no pun intended) as they cross over. I also have mobile Banking
by a certain VAS provider ,i occasionally download tunes......in short,
safaricom has colonized my life. To move means visiting all those offices
and people to change all the above....

Safaricom has always had an ecosystem convenient to the Kenyan, this is
their secret, not individual products or touchpoints.

For any competitor to shake their dominance, they need to rethink the set up
of the peculiar Kenyans life and come up with a value proposition that makes
sense to that set up......Ask Nokia why they run to partner with Microsoft,
Ecosystem is the new tech value proposition.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com>wrote:

> Tihihihi!!
>
>
> "For me it's Airtel for life!"
>
> I recall the similar sentiments a few years ago with per second billing...
>
> ./bernard
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:18 PM, julianne anyim <julianneanyim@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Could anyone on this forum tell us what merits Mpesa has over ZAP? I use
>> ZAP and personally, I find it much better than Mpesa in terms of response
>> time, easy nicknames and availability of float. The only challenge is i know
>> is that ZAP Agents are not widely spread like Mpesa and am sure this they
>> will work on, as their client-base grows!
>>
>> For me it's Airtel for life!
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:56 AM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> @Anthony.
>>>
>>> Realistically, unless u're running a 6969, there is no way to get 10M
>>> people on an app in Kenya. Don't mention Mpesa coz there are special cases
>>> that apply to it ...
>>>
>>> It's quite strange for a teleco to say that they cant do 70% because they
>>> cant justify ROI, while they expect a content developer to take 30% as
>>> revenue share and expect them to justify ROI to their investors. Now,
>>> whenever I talk to someone about this topic, I always ask, what's the
>>> justification for a teleco. What is this ROI? And the conversation ends up
>>> with the law of supply and demand i.e. the Telecos have infrasturcure so
>>> they can charge what they want. That's OK however, competition is thick in
>>> the air and that's why I brought this up as a way for a teleco to attract
>>> content.
>>>
>>> Regarding handset manufacturers versus telecos. A teleco can setup it's
>>> own portal, exclusive to it's subscribers. It's not a unique case for
>>> handset manufacturers.
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Fri, 3/18/11, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke <
>>> skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke <
>>> skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke>
>>> Subject: Skunkworks Digest, Vol 13, Issue 253
>>>
>>> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke
>>> Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 10:28 AM
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>>> 1. Re: I am moving to Airtel...what about you? (Anthony Olendo)
>>>
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:27:59 +0300
>>> From: "Anthony Olendo" <teeolendo@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=teeolendo@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>>
>>> To: "'Skunkworks Mailing List'" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
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>>>
>>>
>>> 70%!! almost sounds like a dream for Kenyan telcos, and IMHO it may
>>> remain
>>> that way. The only reason that other mobile app stores give developers
>>> that
>>> much is because the stores are owned by handset manufacturers. These OEMs
>>> have an interest in seeing apps developed to run on their handsets and
>>> the
>>> more content they get the better for them, IMHO the only way it would
>>> work
>>> for telcos is if they probably concentrated on, forgive my language, data
>>> intensive apps. Without proof of a good ROI it would be tough for them to
>>> support content developers.
>>>
>>> The focus for mobile content developers should be the market of over
>>> 10million subscribers, if you manage to get 1Kshs per day from 1% of that
>>> market then you'll be set for a while. What content developers need to is
>>> creativity and a knack for getting around the various gardens that
>>> characterize our technology ecosystem, otherwise we'll die complaining.
>>>
>>> P.S. Even facebook knows that the STK is here to stay.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke>
>>> [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke>]
>>> On Behalf Of wesley kirinya
>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 10:38 AM
>>> To: skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm inclined to agree with Safcom. They might loose some customers,
>>> mostly
>>> those without MPESA, but Safcom is here to stay with the majority
>>> numbers.
>>> However, it will also be difficult for them to increase subscribers. IMO
>>> the
>>> future for higher profits is to get more revenue per subscriber. If
>>> Airtel,
>>> Orange... got an equal number of subsribers with Safcom, what next?.
>>>
>>> Now there is a complex situation that exists today that didn't exist
>>> before.
>>> Mpesa and other SIM applications could get away with difficult UI
>>> experience
>>> back in the days, which they can't today because of the great UI
>>> experience
>>> on applications that can be downloaded on the phones. Back in the days a
>>> VAS
>>> is what was on the SIM, today, it's not. That means telecos have lost
>>> their
>>> grip on the VAS that can be put on the phone. IMO no teleco should be
>>> comfortable with the idea of having a unique VAS on their network.
>>>
>>> So telecos have to attract content developers, who now hold the V in VAS.
>>> The only true way is to give the content developers decent revenue share
>>> on
>>> decent terms.
>>>
>>> Now my conclusion is something I said many months ago after being
>>> frustrated
>>> by the low revenue share that telecos offer and the hoops that come with
>>> it...
>>>
>>> The winning teleco is the one that will offer decent revenue share to
>>> content developers. Nothing more, nothing less. If Orange and Airtel
>>> (Zain,
>>> ...) want to cut down Safcom (assuming Safcom would, unlikely, be
>>> sleeping),
>>> give content developers at least 70%, and allow your subsribers to pay
>>> via
>>> airtime. That 70% is what the developer takes to the office, no strange
>>> hidden agendas! To put icing on the cake, allow an API to your systems so
>>> that content developers can integrate the payment in their applications.
>>>
>>> To be fair to the telecos, it's said that under the law, a content
>>> developer
>>> has to go through a Content Provider (or PRSP, smthing like that). Well,
>>> it's about time such laws were removed, unless there is clear benefit for
>>> having them.
>>>
>>> 8~(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 3/18/11, skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke<http://mc/compose?to=skunkworks-request@lists.my.co.ke>
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>>> Perhaps this question should be directed to the nairobi python user
>>> group mailing list ?
>>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/naipug
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ndungi@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Ah, never mind. I'll head over to stackoverflow
>>> >
>>> > On 17 March 2011 05:37, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ndungi@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> You mean whether its
>>> >> option = ?forms.BooleanField(required=False,initial=True) ;
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry, didn't quite get you.
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:22:23 +0300
>>> From: "[Brainiac]" <arebacollins@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=arebacollins@gmail.com>
>>> >
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>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] I am moving to Airtel...what about you?
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>>> if im ever to move, it would be to EVDO, but im not soo sure number
>>> portability applies to that.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Gichingiri Kuria
>>> <gmail@gichingiri.com <http://mc/compose?to=gmail@gichingiri.com>>wrote:
>>>
>>> > I hope Airtel switch to 3G soon.
>>> > Mpesa is the main reason most people will stay with Safaricom.
>>> > This is a great time for Tangaza <https://www.tangaza321.com/tan/> to
>>> > boost their marketing. They offer mobile money services (like Mpesa)
>>> and
>>> you
>>> > can be on any network.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2011/3/17 Jacob Odada <jacob.odada@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=jacob.odada@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I dont know where im going but im leaving safcom
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Odhiambo Washington
>>> <odhiambo@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=odhiambo@gmail.com>>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 16:31, Timothy Mutugi
>>> <timothymutugi@gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=timothymutugi@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I am a former Safaricom Customer since circa 2000.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 14 days to go...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I am moving to Airtel.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> What about you?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Wait a moment! There is this stupid network (I mean it) named YU.
>>> Suppose
>>> >>> I move with my number, and I experience some problem, who do I call
>>> for
>>> >>> help? Do I still call YU?? When I lose my SIM card after porting the
>>> number,
>>> >>> who do I call??
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Just to qualify my position about YU, I lost my phone recently (a
>>> twin
>>> >>> SIM phone) and called them for help. I spoke to two different
>>> Customer
>>> Care
>>> >>> Reps at two different times. Besides asking for and getting proof of
>>> my
>>> >>> identity (ID Card Number), SIM Card holder number (aka serial or
>>> something),
>>> >>> they still insisted that I give them 3 numbers that I call
>>> "regularly".
>>> Now,
>>> >>> on this "regularly" thing, I don't use their network that much, but I
>>> could
>>> >>> give them only TWO numbers I have called using their network! They
>>> could
>>> >>> find those in their logs, yes, but they insisted I MUST give *three*
>>> numbers.
>>> >>> No amount of reasoning would convince them that I am the genuine
>>> owner
>>> of
>>> >>> that line. Now, that is what I call stupid, because from that day, I
>>> decided
>>> >>> to let go of their network for G!! When CS Reps are made NOT to think
>>> out of
>>> >>> the box, you have no chance, like I realized.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Best regards,
>>> >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
>>> >>> Nairobi,KE
>>> >>> +254733744121/+254722743223
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around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people
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