+1 @philip Kind Regards, Kennedy KK Mobile: +254721699119 / +254725292261 Skype: k.kairu Gtalk: kkairu On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Philip Musyoki via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
@Laban,
The first sale concept appears to deal with copyright-able material such as books, movies and TV shows. The idea is when your 'purchase' a digital/or physical copyright-able material, certain restrictions as to how you can transfer ownership of that material apply. As far I know, there is no way to legally transfer purchased apps, musics, TV shows and movies purchase from Apple, Google or Amazon.
But for things like data bundles and airtime, the concept is to widely application, but also this appear to be a modern concept initially introduced by Safaricom with airtime transfer (they could have been the first, I don't know) and now Safaricom seems to be testing the waters and see how the market takes it.
Remember technology is way ahead of regulations, so industry leaders like Safaricom play a large role in how these things are eventually regulated. If consumers don;t raise their concerns, soon these kind of restrictions can become legal and enforceable by law.
So talk now or don;t complain letter when Safaricom quotes a legal clause when they finally put a expiry time on your M-PESA balance.
And I hope revisions to the ICT Bills deal with these things rather than focusing too much on those who 'misuse telecommunication equipment' laws used to deal with bloggers recently. But it appears the big Telcos have lobbying/financial muscles and the laws end up favoring them.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Laban Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
There's something related in US law called first sale doctrine[1]. It was recently in the news due to a court case, which involved purchase of textbooks from Asia (at dirt cheap rates), which were imported then resold to students in the US (who were paying obscene amounts for text books [2]). I think the law was in favour of the importer [3].
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine 2. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_feature_browse-b_mrr_1?fst=as%3Aoff&rh... 3. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/thai-student-protected-by-first-s...
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Mark Mwangi via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Its all in the money. People were willing to pay 1,000/- for 1.5GB and with Unliminet, they started feeling it was a raw deal. They just increase the data and swallow the lost revenue. I bet their bottom line is not affected even if they offered 4GB at 1,000/- They have the numbers to sustain it.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Tony Likhanga via skunkworks < skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Other than the greed angle on their RA team, could they be battling some serious fraud or revenue leak? I read some interesting motive in Safaricom's move and their controlled responses.
*Disclaimer : I don't own any Safaricom line.*
Tony.
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