Have you explored the Wushu option? It is legal and equally as lethal as a firearm. I don't know of any training centers in town but who knows, maybe some are there.

2009/6/23 Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com>
Carrying a gun may look very enticing, but what if they notice you have it before you can use it? It no longer becomes the 'go to ur ATM and remove all ur monies' crime only, they will surely kill you.
./Ok3ch

2009/6/22 Murigi Muraya <mmskunkworks@gmail.com>

Ecclesiastes 8:11 (NIV) states:

When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, the hearts of the people are filled with schemes to do wrong.
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Have we not seen this in Kenya?

2009/6/22 Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>

Quick question,

Isn't the real question why there are so many armed thugs? If there is more than one thug, isn't a pepper spray a liability? I know I'm being a pacifist here, but, when thugs go after an armoured car, they have the whole shebang, AK 47's etc. If we decide to protect ourselves against that, what will be be using, grenades? Use a pepper spray to protect yourself against a thug, he'll evolve, carry a knife, you carry a knife, he gets a gun, you get a gun, he gets a machine gun, you get a machine gun, he get's a bazooka. There is no end to this, we are going back to the old days when everyone used to carry a weapon (machete, fimbo, pepper spray, pistol, all in the same category). Shouldn't a civilized society be moving towards civil disarmament and not vice versa?

It's simpler to think of the here and now, instincts of self protection etc. However, we have seen from the "necklace" days (thugs used to be burnt as a routine matter), that violence doesn't help. The thugs got guns, and now shoot you. You get gun's they'll get bigger guns. At the end of the day, if someone really want's your property, he'll get it. What we should aim for is a society where the urge to rob is minimised.

I've stopped preaching.

2009/6/22 Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com>


2009/6/22 Brian Muita <bmuita+skunkworks@gmail.com>


2009/6/19 Odhiambo ワシントン <odhiambo@gmail.com>



On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Shiro Njagi <sheeroh@gmail.com> wrote:
Just putting this out there since most of you seem not to be in the know
Pepper spray is illegal in Kenya.

Under which law, Shiro?

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"firearm" means a lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged or which can be adapted for the discharge of any shot, bullet or other missile and includes - 

(a) a weapon of any description designed or intended to discharge -

(i) any noxious liquid, noxious gas or other noxious substance; or


Yayi!!
So there goes the pepper spray, but heck! the police don't protect us that much.
So do I need a license to "be armed with a pepper spray"? :)


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