True some vendors have their own versions of ISIS, and RIP. Talking from experience<br><br>On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Kennedy Aseda via skunkworks &lt;<a href="mailto:skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke">skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Multi-vendor should not just be ignored. Implementation of the standards at software level is not always standard or complete based on my own experience and experience of others I know.</p>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 Aug 2016 15:42, &quot;Francis Kamau via skunkworks&quot; &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke&#39;);" target="_blank">skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>ISIS is preferred due to its simplicity, I know of two reasons;<br><br></div>1. ISIS does not use IPV4 address family - Even if your ISIS Address is wrong, it will still work. OSPF will complain in such a situation.<br></div>2. In a FLAT (Single Area) network ISIS can handle hundreds of routers while OSPF will struggle at 80-90 routers. If you are using OSPF as your IGP in an MPLS network, you can imagine the issues that might come up with the ABRs and ASBRs in a multi-area setup. <br><br></div><div>Guys - please avoid mentioning multi-vendor - both are standard protocols.<br></div><div><br></div>Regards,<br></div>Francis<br><div><div><br><br><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Mark Mwangi via skunkworks <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke&#39;);" target="_blank">skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I remember some years back I called Safaricom to ask them about syncing the time from the network. For some reason it wasn&#39;t doing this while all the other networks could automatically sync the time for the phone. The response from the customer care rep was that she would pass it on to Engineering and see what can be done. 2 Days later the service was there. <div><br></div><div>I made a request to Celtel/Zain in the same period about something else I think it was the cell info thing and their response was that they would talk to marketing or product development or something of the sort. Nothing ever happened. That told me that&#39;s where the power lay.</div><div><br></div><div>@ Safaricom the engineers called the shots possibly due to MJ being an engineer while at Zain the marketing guys run the show. Don&#39;t know if its still like this. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Munguti via skunkworks <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke&#39;);" target="_blank">skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Now everyone is trying to play catch up on 3G while they are rolling out 4G and talking of 5G<div><div><br><br>On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Stephen Munguti &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;kamitu.sm@gmail.com&#39;);" target="_blank">kamitu.sm@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, agreed. <div><br></div><div>But we should never let finance or marketing department to have too much control on the technical department and it&#39;s directions.</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise nothing will get done, Remember yu arguing that they have no need for a 3G as people don&#39;t have the handsets, meanwhile safaricom was busy rolling out their 3G.<br><br>On Thursday, August 25, 2016, Michuki Mwangi &lt;<a>michuki.mwangi@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Stephen Munguti <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a>kamitu.sm@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My point is that the business case must come from the internal technical team. Customer has no awareness to the existence of P routers<span><br><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed the more reason engineers need to learn to speak above layer 7 :).</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Michuki.</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
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